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I have been reading here and at AR15.com for several weeks and my head is hurting from all the info I have read.  I am trying to decide on a scope for my AR.  I currently have an Aimpoint CompML2 but I don't think it is what I want.  I will use my AR mainly for target shooting and some predator hunting under 200 yds.  I would still like a Red Dot for tactical purposes but that is not my preferred use.  I also will be using a supressor on this gun if that changes the decision at all.  My price range is +/- $500.  Right now I have the Bushnell Elite 4200 1.25-4x24 on the top of my list but wanted to see what your thoughts are.  I wish I could find a 1-6 like the Ellis MK-7 Omega in my price range.

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http://www.swfa.com/pc-6713-259-zeiss-18-55x38-conquest-rifle-scope.aspx


http://www.swfa.com/pc-14526-227-trijicon-1-4x24-accu-point-30mm-rifle-scope.aspx
(A little more than your stated $ range, but well worth the wait!)


http://www.swfa.com/pc-10714-1395-millett-1-4x24-dms-tactical-30mm-riflescope.aspx
(For the money, not a bad scope.  I had one, it performed well.)




The Bushnell would be on my short list too.  My list, in order, would be:

Trijicon
Bushnell
Conquest
Millett


Since it will be used for predator hunting, illumination is a good thing.


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Thanks for the response.  I really like the Accupoint and I am not worried about the money but I have read that the green dot is tiny and not really visible in low light conditions.
 
What you think?
 
Also what are your thoughts on the Weaver?
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I have the 3-9 Accupoint (post reticle with illuminated triangle) and that would be my firt choice (did I link to the one with the dot?)
We used that scope last week while hog hunting.  With a 3/4moon and no spotlight, the reticle was clear and the triangle was quite well defined and visible.

I don't know anything about the Weaver, but I like their scopes - in general.  The scope look interesting and have a reasonable price.  That might be a good option too. 

Anyone have experience with the 1.5-4.5 Weaver?
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There isn't much on the web about the Weaver, a few have said they like it, a few have said they sent them back.

The Trijicon is a known value and would still be my first choice.  It is also not battery-illuminated, which is very nice.
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LEU66825 Leupold 6x42 FX-3 Competition Hunter Riflescope                                                                         Leupold 6x42 FX-3 Competition Hunter Riflescope
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Thanks Urimaginaryfriend but I am looking for a smaller scope similar to the Bushnell Elite 4200, Trijicon 24, Weaver 1.5 - 4.5 or the Millett DMS.  If I was sure I would like the Reticle on the Trijicon with the German #4 I would order it and be done but I really don't like the triangle dot and I am worried the tiny green dot on the german reticle won't be visible in the dark.  The reason I don't like the Aimpoint is because the 4 MOA dot covers half the target at 50 yards and there is no way to be accurate.

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Found the Bushnell Elite for $320 so I think I am going to give it a shot.  Now what mounts do I get?
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I think you are missing the point on the Trijicons. With the triangle and chevron style reticle you work off of the point which is far more precise than the standard crosshair

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I think a 1-4x type variable is the way to go for you.  I have the Elite 4200 1.25-4x24 and I am very happy with mine.

The Trijicon is a better scope from the standpoint of not needing batteries.  It also has an appreciably wider field of view at 1x.  In most other respects these are fairly similarly performing scopes.

As far as the green dot, not being visible in low light, I am a little surprised to hear that.  If it is absolutely pitch black, some people have a hard time picking up the tritium illuminated dot, but if there is any light at all, the fiber optic illumination takes over and works fine.

Still, in the bang for the buck department, Elite 4200 is probably a better way to go.

If you are looking for something that is the best combination of speed at low magnification and preciion at 4x, then Trijicon 1-4x24 is probably a better, but more expensive choice (with the post and triangle reticle).

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Mounts on an AR are a tougher call, eye relief has to be right, site height has to be right: that might take some monkeying.
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I'm buying the exact same scope and I recomend taking a hard look at LaRue's mounts, if you can swing the price. Every mount I have ever gotten from him has been rock solid and has always returned to zero, no matter how many times I have taken them off my ars....which has been alot actually.
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LaRue makes great stuff.
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target as in beer can plinking or group (group of beer cans) shooting? This Mk4 SPR works well for cans out to 500 yds, and the really mean ones just off the barrel, m3 elevation (drop) is set  for 50 gr. vmax and shorter barrel. Ill. reticle takes the place of the dot

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