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Hey all

Someone from my hometown forum recommended I check here for some better suggestions.
I'm looking for a new scope and qd mount for my hunting rifle (Tikka T3 308) and SBR for hog hunting. Broke student that I am I figured I would get something that works for both and decided on a fixed 4x with a total budget around $500.

Scope I've narrowed down to a Valdada IOR 4x hunter, that said I didn't know this company existed until a week ago so are there any others I should be looking at?  My original list consisted of the Zeiss Conquest 4x (Discontinued) the Valdada and one of Leupolds offerings. After asking around it seems the Valdada has slightly better glass and so here I am.

Mount I'm thinking Burris PEPR QD.

Any thoughts or suggestions?

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I liked fixed for simple, think any of those would be fine. Lots of love for the Leupold for that model. It may just come down to reticle choice, or if you've had issues before maybe customer service.

About a year ago I picked up. Minox za-5 1.5-8 for a steal of a price on the sample list. Something like that might give you more use later on for less money.
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You might check out the Leupold VX-R series if your going to hunt hogs. The illuminated reticles are a big help for hunting at night and the glass isn't bad either. I have the 2-7X 33 with #4 reticle. For the money, it's a pretty good scope.
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Originally posted by tejas tejas wrote:

You might check out the Leupold VX-R series if your going to hunt hogs. The illuminated reticles are a big help for hunting at night and the glass isn't bad either. I have the 2-7X 33 with #4 reticle. For the money, it's a pretty good scope.
That is an understatement. I was concerned that the 2X (actually 2.5X) low end might not be quick enough to get on fast targets at close range. There's a trick to it, which takes just a little self- training. Keep both eyes open and on target while you bring the rifle up... I can get on target as quickly (or even quicker) as my lit 1X or a dedicated red dot sight, thanks to Leupold's great fiber optic illuminated dot.  That dot enters my field of view and is on target before my eye actually resolves the crosshairs, so to speak... on target instantly. Day or night, there is a red dot setting that works perfectly. The glass is every bit as good as my Conquests and other scopes of similar performance and the #4 reticle is one of the best implementations of that design on the market. Leupold got this scope right.
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Thanks for the suggestion- was quite a bit more then then the Valdada but after doing some more research I decided to spend the extra money on it. I ended up ordering it with the #4 reticle and should have it within the next week or two.
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Forgot to add that it should arrive just in time for my first hog hunt as well so I'm looking forward to it. (Can't seem to find a way to edit my previous post?)
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One comment regarding the mount:  PEPR is designed for mounting on AR rifles.  It will not work well on the Tikka at all.

Get a set of proper height (low in this case) 30mm rings from Warne or TPS or someone along those lines.

ILya
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I was going to get the rail section they sell in the tika performance shop and use that, or do you think dedicated rings would be a better choice?
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Howdy Kaikias,
Please forgive my bad manners for not welcoming you to OT earlier and for not mentioning that the P.E.P.R. is not a good choice for your rifle, adding extra weight, height and complication. Imo, You'd be ahead of the game if you went with rings or combo rings/base for that Tikka.  Don't know about Tikka, but sister Sako rings can get complicated.
The folks at SWFA would have the best suggestions for proper selection, as your main consideration with the little Leupold would be bolt- lift clearance, rather than mounting height above barrel.

Here's a QD P.E.P.R. put to p.r.o.p.e.r. use w/the Leupold on an AR.

Ps Yes, Black Betty needs a bath, but so would you if you'd been up to what we've been up to. Bam-ba-lam.




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PER is too high for a conventional bolt action rifle like the T3. Get a proper one piece rail and rings.

Tikka is a popular rifle, so options are plenty.

I use an EGW rail on my Tikka and different height rings depending on the scope.

ILya
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Didn't think about those issues so thanks. The Scope will be on my AR for the most part moving between my 223 and 300blk SBRs depending on what I'm doing with it. During deer hunting season I'll move it to the Tikka with proper rings and I'll take a look at the SWFA recommendations.

To be completely honest depending on how the AR does for hunting I might use it for deer season as well...not sure about that though because there's just something beautiful about a nice bolt action. Guess that's a discussion for another day though.
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Put the Leupold into a good set of rings that return to zero. TPS is likely your best bet for the money, but there are many other options: Seekins, Aadmount, etc.

Get a riser rail for your AR and then you will be able to move the scope between rifles without having to remove the rings.

ILya

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Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

Put the Leupold into a good set of rings that return to zero. TPS is likely your best bet for the money, but there are many other options: Seekins, Aadmount, etc.

Get a riser rail for your AR and then you will be able to move the scope between rifles without having to remove the rings.

ILya



Agreed.  A riser on the AR will solve the problem of excess height on the bolt gun.  If you use an AR mount, it will be WAY high on the Tikka. If you run rings at the right height on the Tikka, the scope will sit way too low on the AR (without the riser.)

Lastly, Tikka makes a great gun, good choice!
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For those that own this scope what size butler creek caps are you using? Thanks
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Found it- for anyone else looking it's 14 for the eye and 15 for the obj
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Originally posted by Kaikias Kaikias wrote:

Found it- for anyone else looking it's 14 for the eye and 15 for the obj

I've had horrible luck with those over the last couple of years. Hope yours hold up better than mine have.
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