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Good day,

has anyone reviewed or had any first hand experience with the New Monarch 5 scopes. I am especially interested in the 3-15x42. I have a Super slam 3-15x42 and a Zeiss HD5 3-15x42 and am now looking for a third and noticed Nikon now offers one.  I contacted Nikons technical department and asked them about the Monarch 5 and was blessed with a very disappointing and vague answer that sounded like it was read right out of the sales brochure.

They could tell me nothing technical at all and gave me a song and dance about how "People depend on our glass to see the world on a daily basis so you know that the quality is something that is very important to us". That is all well and good but that does not help me make a decision. Regrettably no one in my local area sells Nikon I cannot compare first hand. Anyone out there have any experience with the new Monarch line either the 3 or the 5.


Thanks Doug

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Vague and disappointing answer from a Tech department on their own product should give you all the answer you need.
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They are tech people probably have no people or sales skills.

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Yes I agree! but they should at least be able to tell me something about their product. I don't think they even knew what I meant when I asked what level of the market the glass was designed to compete in. Honestly if the glass is on par with the super slam I would probably buy one or three just to standardize.  

 I am a Tech/Sales guy for my company and have been for many years . I agree that there are many in the technical field that are a bit lacking in the people department. Big Smile

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Why not just buy 3 super slams if you are happy with them?
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Generally, most companies instruct their employees to not answer "is it as good as..." questions when it pertains to optical quality.  It is a can of worms for them and in their place, I would try to get away with a vague answer as well.

They are decent scopes and pretty good for the money.  I have generally warmed to Nikon scopes a little more in recent years, although I am still not a huge fan of their BDC reticle.

Whether they are better than the Super Slam or not is a hard call.  I think that Super Slam has a slight edge with optics (and it started out as a more expensive design), but the Monarch 5 seems a little more forgiving for eye position.

Weaver's EBX reticle is just as silly as Nikon's BDC albeit in a different way.

Honestly, with hunting scopes, you may want to consider the new Razor HD LH.  It will be a bit more expensive, but it looks like a cleaner and more flexible design. In low light, both of the reticles offered in the Razor HD LH are going to be more visible than Nikon's or Weaver's.  Honestly, I think the new Razor hunting scopes and Leica ER5 will make things complicated for Conquest HD.

Lastly, if you are considering a 3-15x42 in the Nikon/Weaver price range, you should also consider SWFA SS 3-15x42 with the center diamond reticle.

ILya
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Thanks for the great answer! I do like the superslam I actually have 8 of them but there is a noticeable difference between it and my HD5'S. I also agree that the BDC and the EBX are both silly. I was hoping that the Nikon would fall in between the two. I am not familiar with the SWFA SS you mentioned I will have to do my homework on them as well as the Vortex.
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