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Well come on if you have spill the beans.
I cant find anywhere with them in stock yet.
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http://www.leica-camera.us/service/dealer_locator/

 

Just enter your country and you will be given dealer information closest to you.

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supposedly the stiff focus wheel issue has been addressed. Water doesn't stick to the lenses anymore. What else?

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All looks good.

I wish I could compare one to the Trinovid.

I still think it's  too bad that they dropped Trinovid.  Out of the big 3, isn't the Ultravid HD the most expensive optics?  
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By using new fluoride lenses and a CAD design program they have both increased light transmission by 3% and reduced more stray light, or non-image-forming light.

Makes them even brighter and sharper than the old Ultravids, which were awesome.
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Yes... but the sticker shock.
I got a used Trinovid for 700, you can find them on sale NIB for about 900, and the Ultravid HD runs 2 grand.  I  am sure they are better than the latest Trinovids or  previous Ultravid, but *that* much better? I totally fail to see the value in that, and I will stick to my Trinovid. It's not very bright admittedly but clarity and contrast and color representation are all very good. It's more than good enough.

I think that light transmission for the old Trinovids was about 82%, and original Ultravid was 87%, a visible 5% improvement, and now that's improved by 3% again with HD, putting it at 90%? The biggest difference is between the Trinovid and Ultravid, the former used silver coating and the latter dielectric. I am not sure about Swarovski figures, but Zeiss is supposed to be the brightest  of the Big Three.

The other thing to keep in mind, Ultravid HD offers an inferior 10 year warranty vs. 30 years for the original Ultravid or even Trinovids... I think I will buy a NIB Ultravid (non-HD) when it drops in price due to HD arrival. You can find used ones for $1200.

Anyway, for that price, I would seriously look at Swarovski EL, it's expensive but well under 2 grand that Ultravid HD runs. It's at least as bright and also has water-resistant coating and has lighter body. I am also going to seriously look at the non-HD Ultravids.  Leica Trinovids of course offer the best value. (but not performance)

Although,  I do believe Leica offers the most stunning image of the big 3, they have worst warranty out of the big 3. (Swaro offering the best IMO)
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I think Leica has a lifetime passport warranty that covers everything even if you crush them according to competitor site. Swaro and Zeiss have a LIMITED lifetime warranty. I may be wrong but I have been doing a lot of reasearch in that area. If I am going to take the plunge i want to be informed as to what I am getting.
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Originally posted by pahuntnut pahuntnut wrote:

I think Leica has a lifetime passport warranty that covers everything even if you crush them according to competitor site. Swaro and Zeiss have a LIMITED lifetime warranty. I may be wrong but I have been doing a lot of reasearch in that area. If I am going to take the plunge i want to be informed as to what I am getting.
 
Leica's warranty on the Ultravid HD is 10 years.
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Some interesting and varied discussions about the Ultravid HD, as well as other competing binos in these threads:
 
 
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Im really confused?? is it just there company (competors site) that offers the Leica Lifetime Passport warranty? or are they wrong? I think i am starting to suffer information overload. Im shopping for a good hunting bino and this is turning out to be a major project. lol
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Originally posted by pahuntnut pahuntnut wrote:

Im really confused?? is it just there company (competors site) that offers the Leica Lifetime Passport warranty? or are they wrong? I think i am starting to suffer information overload. Im shopping for a good hunting bino and this is turning out to be a major project. lol
 
You need to be very careful about the sources of information that you use.  Transferrable lifetime warranties are pretty much becoming the industry standard in the United States. This doesn't mean everyone is offering them but, many of them are - especially in any given company's higher-end line(s).  However, warranties in Europe for example, cannot legally extend beyond, I believe, 10 years.  Thus, even if you have a source that states a shorter-than-lifetime warranty for a given product, it may not be true, if the product was purchased in the United States.  
 
For example, the Zeiss warranty includes (in part):
 

Originally posted by ZEISS WEBSITE ZEISS WEBSITE wrote:

All Zeiss Binoculars, Riflescopes, and Spotting Scopes... sold through a United States Authorized Zeiss Dealer come with a Lifetime Transferable Warranty....

 
[Zeiss] warrants that products sold will be free from defects in materials and workmanship under normal use. If determined to be defective, Zeiss will pay for the cost of labor and materials required for the repair. If product cannot be repaired due to defect, Zeiss will replace with same or equivalent product at Zeiss’ discretion...
This warranty is subject to the following terms and limitations:...

...ITEMS NOT COVERED FOR THE LIFE OF THE PRODUCT:
...WEARING PARTS, SUCH AS BUT NOT LIMITED TO CARRYING STRAPS, PROTECTIVE CAPS, RUBBER EYECUPS, RUBBER ARMORING, POUCHES, CASES, RUBBER EYEPIECE RINGS AND/OR PROTECTIVE CAPS ARE WARRANTED FOR ONE (1) YEAR FROM THE DATE OF PURCHASE.

VALID ONLY IN NORTH AMERICA...
(color emphasis added.)
 
The Swarovski website has a pdf file of their warranty that says essentially the same thing.  
 
Originally posted by Swarovski website Swarovski website wrote:

Swarovski Optik offers a lifetime warranty on the optical system of our products for products purchased by US residents from an authorized Swarovski Optik North American dealer.
(color emphasis added)
 
I could be wrong (it's happened once before) and I certainly don't doubt RifleDude's knowledge or information but, I would be suspicious of any undocumented claim that Leica is limiting their warranty as it would be a major blow to their marketability against these other two top companies.
 
Of course, Leupold Golden Ring products offer one of the most legendary Lifetime Warranties in the business and even Bushnell offers a transferable lifetime warranty on their Elite line of products.
 
Your best bet is to check with your U.S.A. authorized dealer for the latest information on warranties.  See if they can provide you with warranty documentation before you buy, if you need the extra comfort and that they have a reasonable return policy - just in case.  Then verify warranty coverage with the always-included written materials once you make your purchase.
 


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Thanks for the info. This site. (competors site.) says they have a "Leica Lifetime transferable warranty, even if you mush them" so I felt that they did not update their site. Now I will call and find out what is going on.
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Originally posted by pahuntnut pahuntnut wrote:

Thanks for the info. This site. (competors site.) says they have a "Leica Lifetime transferable warranty, even if you mush them" so I felt that they did not update their site. Now I will call and find out what is going on.


Why are you so worried about a "Lifetime transferable warranty", are you buying them used? I totally understand wanting a lifetime warranty and if you purchase a new set of Leica, Swarovski, Zeiss, etc. , you should be so happy with the quality, the only transferring maybe to your grandkids!! Big%20Grin



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Originally posted by pahuntnut pahuntnut wrote:

Thanks for the info. This site. (competors site.) says they have a "Leica Lifetime transferable warranty, even if you mush them" so I felt that they did not update their site. Now I will call and find out what is going on.
 
Leica did indeed change their warranty to 10 years on the new Ultravid HD.  The Ultravid did have a lifetime transferable warranty, but not anymore with the HD.  I could post proof, but it is from a competitor's website. 
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Originally posted by RifleDude RifleDude wrote:

Leica did indeed change their warranty to 10 years on the new Ultravid HD.  The Ultravid did have a lifetime transferable warranty, but not anymore with the HD.  I could post proof, but it is from a competitor's website. 


That's pretty amazing.  Dumb, but amazing.

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Notice also that they mention nothing about their warranty on their website...
 
 
I'm not bashing Leica.  I love their products, and I personally own a Leica Trinovid binocular, a Televid spotting scope, and a now-discontinued Ultravid riflescope.  They make very fine optics.  But they are presently seriously lacking in their warranty coverage compared to their main competitors, and they are taking serious heat from this right now.
 
I am 100% certain of the 10 year warranty on Ultravid HD binoculars, BTW, because I have been doing some comparison shopping on high end 8X32 roof prism binoculars lately.
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well I did not underscore transferable as being a large point in my decision. However, since companies are always coming out with new and improved this and that, there may come a time when i want to trade them and that would help in resale value. As far as lifetime warranty well if I am spending $1600-2000 for bino's I want the most bang for my buck.
 
FYI I just called a major Dealer and Leica DOES have a LIFETIME warranty on there bino's in the USA but not out of the USA it is 10 year
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Originally posted by pahuntnut pahuntnut wrote:

FYI I just called a major Dealer and Leica DOES have a LIFETIME warranty on there bino's in the USA but not out of the USA it is 10 year
 
This "major dealer" is wrong.  I've seen the warranty card.  Call Leica at 800-272-0118 if you don't believe me.
 
Here is an excerpt from a major online US-based Leica retailer's order page.  I would post the link to the whole page, but first of all, this is against OT rules and as a SWFA customer, I don't want to promote their competitors.

"The Leica Ultravid HD 12x50 binocular is tripod adaptable (adapter sold separtately) and comes with:

  • Eyepiece cover
  • Cordura carry case
  • Neoprene neck strap
  • Objective lens covers
  • Leica 10-Year Warranty"


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thanks fo rthe number i will call. Therw is a major difference if a warranty is 10 years or unlimited. I would like to tell you where i got the information, but i dont think the moderator would let me. Jeez im getting a headacheWhacko.
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rifledude you are CORRECT!! They changed their warranty in 2008 to 10 years. They are honoring the ones sold with the old passport warranty card. To me that stinks. Do they expect me to spend most for their product and get a lesser warranty than Zeiss or Swaro?? Wel to me they are oficially out of the race as they are the most expensive and have the worst warranty of the big three.
Thank you for being patient with me.
 
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As for the optics shop i called and wasted money on a long distance phone call to CA. Well what kind of a shop are they? They have it in the Leics write  up on their site and the salesman did not know any different.
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Im soo mad I cant even type correctlyHead%20Banger
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Just think how mad you would be if you hadn't found out about it ahead of time.
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I would have been HOPPING mad. I am glad sites like this exist.
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