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Looking for reviews, impressions, musings,  likes or dislikes of the New Nikon Monarch.

Fire away!!

 

I told The Warden...OK asked  if I could get a 4-16x with the BDC for Christmas.

 

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Cheaptrick you will love them! Have you seen or are you familar with the BDC? It is amazing how easy it is to use. Similar concept to the Swarovski TDS or the Burris Ballistic Plex but, the BDC is formatted with circles which your eye picks up on well. I give them Kudos all the way!
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Well sort of.

I looked through a couple Buckmaster's with the BDC, but I haven't shot with one yet. Looking to rectify that.

 

http://www.nikondownload.com/models/pressrelease/Monarch%20R iflescopes%20PR.doc

 

How do the new units stack up against the Conquest, 4200 Elite, VX III?

 

Where does one get target turrets if they want them, but the scope they ordered doesn't come with them? 

The 5-20x44mm and the 6-24x50mm come with the high profile turrets, but the other models don't. As I said, I'm considering the 4-16x job, but I want the target knobs. 

Is SWFA going to sell sunshades and high profile turrets for the new Monarch?

 

Thank you!!

 

Check out the SWFA staff Nikon BDC video!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhJSiIaFOkQ

 

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< name=tab1>Key Features< name=tab2>Technical Specifications
Nikon's New Eyebox design features a huge ocular that provides a 4 time magnification range and 4” constant eye relief without sacrificing FOV
Features Locking Side Focus Parallax Adjustment
Larger 42mm objective
Quick Focus eyepiece
Enhanced Mount Ring spacing
Hand Turn Reticle adjustments that features Nikon's new Interchangeable Turret Technology -1/4 MOA
Fully Multicoated - Nikon's UCC system provides 95 percent Light Transmission
Waterproof, Shockproof, Fogproof
Nikon's unique zoom control with rearward facing numbers
One-piece main body
Sunshade adaptable

 

This is right off of Nikon's website so I would assume you could get the High profile target knobs through Nikon. At this point I am not sure if we will be carrying them ourselves or not. We should definately carry the sunshades in the near future. As for how it stacks up to the others you will be impressed. I don't know if you  have read my other posts but, I reccomend it a lot. It has excellent resolution and clarity for the price. It is definately me favorite of the four you are comparing. It is an all around great scope. A little shorter than the 4-16X40 4200 and has a bigger objective. If it came down to it this and the 4-16X50 4200 are the closest and that 4200 is a little more money than the Nikon at 499.95 compared to 449.95 of the Nikon. I say your choice is my favorite all the way. Hope this helps!

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Have they made the coss hair lines thinner on the new modles? On my 5.5x16.5 the lines are a tad to thick for my likings but it is still a really good optic.

 

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Originally posted by cheaptrick cheaptrick wrote:

 

Check out the SWFA staff Nikon BDC video!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhJSiIaFOkQ

 

 

Yeah I think I saw that video after all I was in it!

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Originally posted by Chris Farris 2 Chris Farris 2 wrote:

Originally posted by cheaptrick cheaptrick wrote:

 

Check out the SWFA staff Nikon BDC video!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhJSiIaFOkQ

 

 

Yeah I think I saw that video after all I was in it!

 

Oh I see he is braging now.......

 

it was a good vid BTW



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I wouldn't say bragging exactly. All is fair in love and war is it not? I am surprised we haven't heard anything out of Brady yet. Me and him were"challenging" each other and he called that he would shoot the the chain off a hanging steel target at 300 yards. Bang! the chain snapped. Needless to say the competition was pretty much over after that. If you watch the video at about 50-55 seconds you see three targets one broke in half. Then at about a minute and 15 seconds you the the same three targets with the far left target gone only half of the chain remains that was his shot. Kudos Brady. Sorry to temporarily hijack the thread CT.

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Just got back from the gun shop and looked through the new Monarch. It was a 3-12x unit with a BDC reticle.

http://www.swfa.com/pc-8767-218-nikon-3-12x42-monarch-rifles cope.aspx

 

I looked through the scope INSIDE the building for about 20 minutes, so take that into consideration. This is NOT a review or an evaluation, just my humble first impressions...

 

Pros:

-Good optics. Appears to be the same glass/coatings we have come to know from the older Monarchs.

 

-Sleek design. Not sure how "rugged" it is, but time will tell.  

 

-4x zoom is really nice. Reminds me of the Conquest, in that regard.

 

-Price!! Hard to find a scope with the optics and features this scopes offers for the same money.

 

-Turrets were (metal) low profile with 1/4 MOA clicks. Clicks felt good and crisp. All Nikon's I have owned or used tracked and repeated very well, I assume this new offering would be comparable.  

 

 

Cons:

-The side focus "clicks" when turned.... Now, I'm not sure if that's good or bad, but I wonder how accurately one will be able to correct parallax with clicks.   

The SF wheel was "sticky" too and seemed to bind at first, but loosened up after a little turning.

 

-Eye relief seemed good, BUT this scope was a little "hinky" with head positioning, even at the lower power settings. Much more so than my old Conquest. If you move your head horizonially left or right, you will loose your sight picture fairly quickly. Maybe just the unit I looked at, but I was a little surprised at this.

 

Over all, a really nice scope with a great price tag.

As good as a Conquest??   

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Originally posted by cheaptrick cheaptrick wrote:

 

Over all, a really nice scope with a great price tag.

As good as a Conquest??   

 

Agreed! Factoring in the price is more important to some people. If you want to save money go with the Nikon. If you got the extra money throw it down on the Zeiss! Both great scopes though.

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Originally posted by Bigdaddy0381 Bigdaddy0381 wrote:

Have they made the coss hair lines thinner on the new modles? On my 5.5x16.5 the lines are a tad to thick for my likings but it is still a really good optic.

 

   Do the new modles have thiner cross hair lines?

 

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Daddy, are you referring to the Nikoplex or the BDC reticle??

I only saw a BDC Monarch today.

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Originally posted by Bigdaddy0381 Bigdaddy0381 wrote:

Originally posted by Bigdaddy0381 Bigdaddy0381 wrote:

Have they made the coss hair lines thinner on the new modles? On my 5.5x16.5 the lines are a tad to thick for my likings but it is still a really good optic.

 

   Do the new modles have thiner cross hair lines?

 

 Yes they are. 

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Thanks  CF2 I might starte looking into one then.

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The SWFA video was great!!

We even got a glimpse of Stephanie, The Optics Goddess.... 

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CT,

i was talking about the BDC.Remember when i said something about it at wendy's.I was hopping they would make them thinner.it would make my shooting short range a little easyer.

 

 

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Originally posted by Bigdaddy0381 Bigdaddy0381 wrote:

CT,

i was talking about the BDC.Remember when i said something about it at wendy's.I was hopping they would make them thinner.it would make my shooting short range a little easyer.

 

 

 

Yes Sir, I remember now. I didn't really notice if they were thinner now.  



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In the BDC there was no noticeable diifference to me. They looked a little thinner on the Nikoplex though. Sorry didn't know you were reffering to the BDC. Sorry BD
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Originally posted by Chris Farris 2 Chris Farris 2 wrote:

In the BDC there was no noticeable diifference to me. They looked a little thinner on the Nikoplex though. Sorry didn't know you were reffering to the BDC. Sorry BD

 

Thats alright Just don't let it happen again      HAHAHAHA  j/k  I should have made myself a little more clear.

 

 

 

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The BDC should be good to go for shooting groups.  

I'm really excited about trying one out... 

 

 

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Originally posted by cheaptrick cheaptrick wrote:

The BDC should be good to go for shooting groups.  

I'm really excited about trying one out... 

 

 

 

So far with the one i have.i have been able to hit 20oz coke bottle up to 500Yards. its fun but with the thinner lines it would make it easyer to shoot lets say a dime at 100yards. It just covers it all up

 

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Hmmm....I'll have to try it out. It didn't seem too intrusive.
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 The only thing i have found with the BDC is that the POI will be different with different load speeds.It recamends 3000 fps I think. I do most of my hand loads as close to 3000 as i can get.The BDC is so close it is scary.Now with the faster loads the POI gose to the top of the circle in the BDC. after about 2 shots it makes its self clear of what the actuall POI is campaierd to the BDC recamendations. Its easy if I the ( village idiot) can do you i'm sure you sharp shooter willl have no problems at all.

 

 

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Originally posted by Bigdaddy0381 Bigdaddy0381 wrote:

Originally posted by Chris Farris 2 Chris Farris 2 wrote:

In the BDC there was no noticeable diifference to me. They looked a little thinner on the Nikoplex though. Sorry didn't know you were reffering to the BDC. Sorry BD

 

Thats alright Just don't let it happen again      HAHAHAHA  j/k  I should have made myself a little more clear.

 

 

 

LOL I will try not to let it happen again.

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We took Stephanie with us on the BDC shoot and it was only her 2nd time EVER to shoot and, she shot a few shaving cream cans 500 yards with a .270. Those reticles are amazingly easy to use.
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