New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - ANGLED AND STRAIGHT SPOTTER
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

Check GunBroker.com for SWFA's No Reserve and No Minimum bid firearm auctions.

ANGLED AND STRAIGHT SPOTTER

 Post Reply Post Reply   Topic Search Topic Search  Topic Options Topic Options Page  1 2>
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: August/27/2015 at 08:47
pawoods View Drop Down
Optics GrassHopper
Optics GrassHopper


Joined: August/27/2015
Status: Offline
Points: 2

I am new to the forum.  This is my first post.  I am sure this has probably been covered before.  I am in the market for my first spotting scope and not sure if I should get an angled or straight eye piece model.

I have tried a few different models out at Cabelas and Gander MT but I was standing up at the time - not seated or prone.   I and 6'5" and have a longish neck.   The scope will be used for hunting and at the range.

Any import would be appreciated. Thanks


Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: August/27/2015 at 09:33
supertool73 View Drop Down
Optics Jedi Master
Optics Jedi Master
Avatar
Superstool

Joined: January/03/2008
Location: Utah
Status: Offline
Points: 9533
Angled is a little more complicated to find what u are wanting to look at. But a straight is much more difficult to get behind as it has to be straight with your eye. Meaning you have to have your tripod way up in the air.

I have both and would pick the angled every time. Learning how to find what your wanting to look at just takes practice. The annoyance of trying to get behind a straight will always be there
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: August/27/2015 at 09:40
BeltFed View Drop Down
Optics God
Optics God
Avatar

Joined: February/12/2008
Location: Ky
Status: Offline
Points: 16102
I'm going with supertool on this one. It's easier to use an angled at the range, and it's not that hard to find something with a little practice.
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: August/27/2015 at 09:42
Peddler View Drop Down
Optics Jedi Master
Optics Jedi Master
Avatar

Joined: July/04/2012
Location: Oswego,NY
Status: Online
Points: 9059
X3!!!
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: August/27/2015 at 10:31
bugsNbows View Drop Down
Optics Jedi Master
Optics Jedi Master
Avatar
bowsNbugs

Joined: March/10/2008
Location: Florida
Status: Offline
Points: 9300
My sentiments differ. I have a straight Kowa and it is easy to get behind and locate targets.
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: August/27/2015 at 10:51
mike650 View Drop Down
Optics God
Optics God
Avatar

Joined: May/14/2006
Location: West of Rockies
Status: Offline
Points: 12712
I like straight as well. It comes down to a matter of preference.
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: August/27/2015 at 11:02
Peddler View Drop Down
Optics Jedi Master
Optics Jedi Master
Avatar

Joined: July/04/2012
Location: Oswego,NY
Status: Online
Points: 9059
3 to 2 so far.

Laugh


Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: August/27/2015 at 11:17
RifleDude View Drop Down
MODERATOR
MODERATOR
Avatar

Joined: October/13/2006
Location: Texas
Status: Offline
Points: 14321
I'm an angled guy too. I thought I would like a straight scope better, until I tried both and decided I preferred the angled.

As much as anything, angled permits lower tripod height since you're looking down. I find it's more comfortable and relaxed for my neck along a wider arc, and is easier to get on the eyepiece as you adjust viewing angle. With a straight eyepiece, you are forced to arc your head more according to the viewing angle, and it's especially more difficult as you angle the scope upward, unless you move the tripod height up really high.

It is easier to aim the toward a distant objects with straight spotters.

So, you have to decide which advantage you prefer and which disadvantage you're most willing to live with/ work around.
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: August/27/2015 at 11:32
Peddler View Drop Down
Optics Jedi Master
Optics Jedi Master
Avatar

Joined: July/04/2012
Location: Oswego,NY
Status: Online
Points: 9059
That being said I still have an old sample that is probably 25 years old. It's a Nikon ED78 Fieldscope with a 20-45X eyepiece. Can't remember if they made angled back then or not.

Forgot to say straight.



But I still prefer angled!

4 to 2

Big Grin


Edited by Peddler - August/27/2015 at 11:59
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: August/27/2015 at 12:21
billyburl2 View Drop Down
Optics Master Extraordinaire
Optics Master Extraordinaire
Avatar

Joined: January/08/2009
Location: Cottonwood, AZ
Status: Offline
Points: 3874
I prefer straight eye pieces. I believe they are easier to line-up on target, especially in field conditions.
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: August/28/2015 at 10:13
coyote95 View Drop Down
Optics Master
Optics Master
Avatar

Joined: January/24/2009
Location: michigan
Status: Offline
Points: 1043
Welcome to O.T  If your going to spend anytime standing behind spotter on tripod, you will want to go with angled for the reason Ted mentioned.  @ 6'5" your going to want it as low as possible.  If your going  to mostly sit behind it, that will be a personal preference. imo
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: August/28/2015 at 11:37
RifleDude View Drop Down
MODERATOR
MODERATOR
Avatar

Joined: October/13/2006
Location: Texas
Status: Offline
Points: 14321
Not to mention the fact that if you're a tall person, unless you have a VERY sturdy tripod, you'll have a much harder time keeping a straight spotter steady (especially in the wind) due to much higher tripod height. The higher you scope up a tripod, the less steady it becomes.

The angled eyepiece is also more adaptable to sharing your spotter with others of varying heights since you're already bending your head down to look into the eyepiece and therefore don't have to get the tripod exactly at eye height for comfort. The comfort aspect becomes even more important during extended viewing.

Many spotters come with a little sighting notch or tube that helps with the angled spotter's aiming speed disadvantage. I've found I simply pretend the eyepiece isn't there and look along the side of the body when aiming, then refine my aim through the eyepiece once I'm roughly aimed at the object. Plus, I use a joystick style ball head with my spotter, which speeds up target acquisition. With a little practice, I've gotten pretty fast at finding even the smallest targets. I've taken my angled spotter with me multiple times on prairie dog shoots. Nothing I can think of is harder to acquire in a high powered optic than a tiny prairie dog at extreme distance on a flat, featureless, treeless prairie, and yet I've had little problem doing it after minimal practice.

To me, the comfort, viewing angle convenience, and lower tripod height more than compensates for the slight loss of aiming speed, and after a little practice, I'm not even sure the aiming speed is even much different anymore.
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: August/28/2015 at 12:28
bugsNbows View Drop Down
Optics Jedi Master
Optics Jedi Master
Avatar
bowsNbugs

Joined: March/10/2008
Location: Florida
Status: Offline
Points: 9300
Originally posted by RifleDude RifleDude wrote:

Not to mention the fact that if you're a tall person, unless you have a VERY sturdy tripod, you'll have a much harder time keeping a straight spotter steady (especially in the wind) due to much higher tripod height. The higher you scope up a tripod, the less steady it becomes.

The angled eyepiece is also more adaptable to sharing your spotter with others of varying heights since you're already bending your head down to look into the eyepiece and therefore don't have to get the tripod exactly at eye height for comfort. The comfort aspect becomes even more important during extended viewing.

Many spotters come with a little sighting notch or tube that helps with the angled spotter's aiming speed disadvantage. I've found I simply pretend the eyepiece isn't there and look along the side of the body when aiming, then refine my aim through the eyepiece once I'm roughly aimed at the object. Plus, I use a joystick style ball head with my spotter, which speeds up target acquisition. With a little practice, I've gotten pretty fast at finding even the smallest targets. I've taken my angled spotter with me multiple times on prairie dog shoots. Nothing I can think of is harder to acquire in a high powered optic than a tiny prairie dog at extreme distance on a flat, featureless, treeless prairie, and yet I've had little problem doing it after minimal practice.

To me, the comfort, viewing angle convenience, and lower tripod height more than compensates for the slight loss of aiming speed, and after a little practice, I'm not even sure the aiming speed is even much different anymore.


Precisely why I bought the tripod I did. It's lightweight (relatively), very sturdy and well built. It's the Jobu Design Algonquin. It would be great for a person up to 6'5"-6'7" (or more) depending upon the head configuration.


Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: August/28/2015 at 13:17
Marine24 View Drop Down
Optics Journeyman
Optics Journeyman


Joined: June/07/2010
Location: Monument, CO
Status: Online
Points: 563
I prefer the angled as well particulary my Zen Ray ED2 that has the rotating tripod ring.  That allows me to stay seated and still look through the scope with the eyepiece rotated to be parallel with the deck.  Use a Phone Skope or similar product with my iPhone and you have a nice setup for the range.
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: August/28/2015 at 16:29
Rancid Coolaid View Drop Down
Optics Jedi Master
Optics Jedi Master
Avatar

Joined: January/19/2005
Location: United States
Status: Online
Points: 7708
Straight for prone shooting, angled for all else.  

I hunt sometimes from blinds with high shelves for building a solid shooting position.  In those blinds, straight are much better.

My go-to spotter is an angled Vortex Razer HD, and it will be for awhile.  I hope.
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: August/29/2015 at 13:18
sucker76 View Drop Down
Optics Apprentice
Optics Apprentice
Avatar

Joined: June/13/2013
Location: Texas
Status: Offline
Points: 179
Is there any optical advantage one way or another?  I also have been looking around for spotters and sometimes the angled is a different price than the straight. 
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: August/29/2015 at 14:06
Peddler View Drop Down
Optics Jedi Master
Optics Jedi Master
Avatar

Joined: July/04/2012
Location: Oswego,NY
Status: Online
Points: 9059
Personal preference, there should be no price difference.
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: August/31/2015 at 09:41
BeltFed View Drop Down
Optics God
Optics God
Avatar

Joined: February/12/2008
Location: Ky
Status: Offline
Points: 16102
If you want to split hairs, the straight would be better, because the angled has to send light through an extra lens, but I doubt you can tell a difference between a straight or angled version of the same scope.
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: August/31/2015 at 11:45
RifleDude View Drop Down
MODERATOR
MODERATOR
Avatar

Joined: October/13/2006
Location: Texas
Status: Offline
Points: 14321
Originally posted by BeltFed BeltFed wrote:

If you want to split hairs, the straight would be better, because the angled has to send light through an extra lens, but I doubt you can tell a difference between a straight or angled version of the same scope.


Not really. The difference in eyepiece orientation is accomplished by using different prism designs --
Typically a straight scope uses a porro prism or schmidt pechan prism, and an angled scope typically uses a roof prism.

With today's advanced dielectric prism coatings, there is no noticeable difference in light transmission or image quality between angled and straight, when comparing two high quality spotters of the same series.
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: August/31/2015 at 12:28
BeltFed View Drop Down
Optics God
Optics God
Avatar

Joined: February/12/2008
Location: Ky
Status: Offline
Points: 16102
Originally posted by RifleDude RifleDude wrote:

Originally posted by BeltFed BeltFed wrote:

If you want to split hairs, the straight would be better, because the angled has to send light through an extra lens, but I doubt you can tell a difference between a straight or angled version of the same scope.


Not really. The difference in eyepiece orientation is accomplished by using different prism designs --
Typically a straight scope uses a porro prism or schmidt pechan prism, and an angled scope typically uses a roof prism.

With today's advanced dielectric prism coatings, there is no noticeable difference in light transmission or image quality between angled and straight, when comparing two high quality spotters of the same series.

That's what I said, but at least I got one of the smart guys to explain itBucky
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: August/31/2015 at 12:34
sucker76 View Drop Down
Optics Apprentice
Optics Apprentice
Avatar

Joined: June/13/2013
Location: Texas
Status: Offline
Points: 179
Thanks all for explaning the difference.
To the OP I have only used angled spotting scopes. They are comfortable when shooting from a bench and prone. I haven't used it standing. Note I'm not the most advanced shooter out there.
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: August/31/2015 at 15:53
tahqua View Drop Down
MODERATOR
MODERATOR
Avatar
Have You Driven A Ford Lately?

Joined: March/27/2006
Location: Michigan, USA
Status: Offline
Points: 8047
I have both angled and straight spotters. For standing and sitting I feel the angled is far better. I could see the advantage for prone, though.
Regarding finding an object, it took some practice but is much easier now. Overall I think the angled is more comfortable for 90% of my viewing and that out weighs the slight disadvantage to the straight.
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: August/31/2015 at 15:55
supertool73 View Drop Down
Optics Jedi Master
Optics Jedi Master
Avatar
Superstool

Joined: January/03/2008
Location: Utah
Status: Offline
Points: 9533
I like angled from prone as well.  If you turn is sideways on a short tripod, you can have it so it is just right of your eye and all you have to do is slightly turn your head and you are looking through your spotter.  Straight works well, but I think angled is easier in that role as well. 
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: September/01/2015 at 08:39
BeltFed View Drop Down
Optics God
Optics God
Avatar

Joined: February/12/2008
Location: Ky
Status: Offline
Points: 16102
I'd just like to figure out how I could mount my Pentax spotter on the stand I use for high power matches.
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: September/11/2015 at 22:35
vaultman View Drop Down
Optics GrassHopper
Optics GrassHopper


Joined: February/16/2015
Status: Offline
Points: 20
Sounds like a 7 to 4 victory for the angled. I will add to the angled preference. Let the beating continue.
 Hammer Hit  LOL!!!  8 to 4.
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  1 2>
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Similar Threads: "ANGLED AND STRAIGHT SPOTTER"
Subject Author Forum Replies Last Post
Angled or Straight Eyepiece? Shoalwater Spotting Scopes 5
brightnes of angled vs straight webrehm Spotting Scopes 7
65vs80 angled vs straight grandslam Spotting Scopes 11
Sandpiper straight or angle ????? abunaitoo Spotting Scopes 7
Angled or Straight?? jasonk_jasonk Spotting Scopes 2 6/30/2005 6:19:22 PM
Angled vs. Straight lucznik Spotting Scopes 5 1/8/2007 5:16:01 AM
Angled vs. Straight tarkio Spotting Scopes 5 10/12/2007 4:26:03 PM
Which do you prefer, angled or straight? Chris Farris Spotting Scopes 36
Cable tie sights for angled spotters Klamath Spotting Scopes 3
ZR Ridgefield Angled Spotter ahiaring Spotting Scopes 3


This page was generated in 0.203 seconds.