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Reveiw- Black Hills .308 win match bthp, in standard and moly coated bullets.

 

When I first used this ammo, after the first shot, spotted the hole and fired again and saw, no change, (I thought that I had missed the paper completely), on the third shot the hole from the first shot got slightly bigger. I was thinking that it was impossible and I fired a six shot group. My first one hole group I shot was out of my savage model 10fp, at the time it had a leo vx-1 in 3-9x40mm and no aftermarket parts. that was a year ago, now I still use the stuff and it never fails to amaze me.

 

As far as the physicle appearence, the brass is clean, and the primers are old style, (brass colored, not sure if that is what they are made of) out of each box 1-2 primers are much darker than the others, (apparent oxidation), but shoot just as accurately as the others. All cartridge lengths are within .02".

The accuracy is sub moa, .90-6-shot group @100 with a H&K G3 (cold bore) that is in okay condition, (it is old). and it shoots about a .60-6 shot group out of my savage 10fp(cold bore).

 

The moly coated rounds are very nice because I can shoot over 40 rds with little to no expansion and no drop, also when it is sighted in for the mc coated rds, it is also sighted in for 150 gr ammo. the groups are not identical between the two rounds, moly coated are about .70, but the shot that threw it by .10", could have been because of me.

 

I would recommend this ammo to any paper puncher that would rather not spend 25.00 on a box of ammo.

 

anyone else feel free to add a reveiw on any type of ammuniton that you rely on, or impressed with.

 

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I have not bought a box of ammo, yer maybe never.

My ole man tought me how to reload, and I have all the stuff. Just seems the cheapskate way to go.





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Originally posted by Garrand Garrand wrote:

I have not bought a box of ammo, yer maybe never.

My ole man tought me how to reload, and I have all the stuff. Just seems the cheapskate way to go.


 

That's nice... 

 

There are some changes coming, both politically and in the basic world markets for lead, brass and copper. We are going to get caught up in a squeeze. Rising prices, increased regulation and less buying power as we feed our gas tanks to go to work.  I am suggesting to my friends that they stock up in quanity.  

 

 World demand for those materials has risen just like and in similar proportion to oil prices. And for the same reasons China and India have come on line to provide a middle class for thier own people and it is sort of a renosonace like we had in this country and Europe after World War two.  They are also competing with us for oil and that is what is driving our gas prices up.

 

I am expecting a political shift after this fall,  it is just a matter of degree.  Expect gun control to be repackaged as anti-terror measures.  All the money that normally get POURED into the California and east coast races is being POURED into the OHIO valley.  My freinds race is an example.  They have been great fund raisers.   They are now going up against FOUR TIMES they amount they normally raise against the SAME OPPONENT.  Now that John McCain has enable 527's.  An estimated TWO MILLION dollars in killer phone calls and support has been spent already by 527s.  Thier opponet has also raisied a Million Dollars for himself.   The other national party is expected to put in AT LEAST a million to support their candidate on top of all this other money.  And this in a race that could not attract a million total a couple of years ago. That is only one district in the valley.  Everybody else is seeing the same thing. 

 

The Primer and reloading scare of a few years ago may revist us soon enough.  A couple of cases of your favorites is a good idea.  A couple of months ago I went into the largest police supplier in the region.  They had ball by the pallet setting on the sales floor, but not one full case of any one lot of hollow point.  

 

If in 1928 you had the chance to stock up and could sence what was coming would you have done it?

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Back to the issue of the ammo itself...

 

Originally posted by Anthony Anthony wrote:

 

The moly coated rounds are very nice because I can shoot over 40 rds with little to no expansion and no drop, also when it is sighted in for the mc coated rds, it is also sighted in for 150 gr ammo. the groups are not identical between the two rounds, moly coated are about .70, but the shot that threw it by .10", could have been because of me.

 

It's interesting that you like the moly-coated stuff.  My dad and I shot moly-coated Barnes-X bullets for a short time but, we dropped them because we couldn't shoot more than 3 or 4 rounds before fouling in the barrel started adversely affecting accuracy. This happened in every gun we tried them in so, we're pretty confident it was the bullet and not some problem with any particular gun's barrel. We've never had this problem with any non-coated bullets.

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It depends on what the manufacturer uses, for me the patches come out clean in 1/3 of the time it takes too clean out barrels that used uncoated bullets.

 

 

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Originally posted by silver silver wrote:

 

There are some changes coming, both politically and in the basic world markets for lead, brass and copper. We are going to get caught up in a squeeze. Rising prices, increased regulation and less buying power as we feed our gas tanks to go to work.  I am suggesting to my friends that they stock up in quanity.  

 

 World demand for those materials has risen just like and in similar proportion to oil prices. And for the same reasons China and India have come on line to provide a middle class for thier own people and it is sort of a renosonace like we had in this country and Europe after World War two.  They are also competing with us for oil and that is what is driving our gas prices up.

 

I am expecting a political shift after this fall,  it is just a matter of degree.  Expect gun control to be repackaged as anti-terror measures.  All the money that normally get POURED into the California and east coast races is being POURED into the OHIO valley.  My freinds race is an example.  They have been great fund raisers.   They are now going up against FOUR TIMES they amount they normally raise against the SAME OPPONENT.  Now that John McCain has enable 527's.  An estimated TWO MILLION dollars in killer phone calls and support has been spent already by 527s.  Thier opponet has also raisied a Million Dollars for himself.   The other national party is expected to put in AT LEAST a million to support their candidate on top of all this other money.  And this in a race that could not attract a million total a couple of years ago. That is only one district in the valley.  Everybody else is seeing the same thing. 

 

The Primer and reloading scare of a few years ago may revist us soon enough.  A couple of cases of your favorites is a good idea.  A couple of months ago I went into the largest police supplier in the region.  They had ball by the pallet setting on the sales floor, but not one full case of any one lot of hollow point.  

 

If in 1928 you had the chance to stock up and could sence what was coming would you have done it?

 

your a 2 weeks too late, I came up with a system to stock up on ammo annually, and last friday I was ready for more ammo, and guess what? The sales person was staring at me like there was a tumor on my face, after I said "HOLY CRAP!" when he rang up the cases. I cannot beleive that the price of handgun ammunition has amost doubled, and rifle ammunition is more expensive but wasn't hitting me as hard. According to an acquaintance (sort of know him) some handgun ammo went up by 50% just a few weeks ago.(I may have to drop fiocchi) But if we are runnig out of brass, lead, and copper. Won't bullets and brass for reloading be going up too?

 

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