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Got the pics and info from AR15. Looked pretty informative.
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Here are two Aimpoints turned up to the same brightness and the range is at 25 yards. You be the judge of the difference.
 
Yeah I realize the dots aren't perfectly lined up on the target but you still get the idea - they weren't mounted on rifles at the time. The target is a TQ 15 and the Aimpoints are a C3 (2MOA) and a ML3 (4MOA). The target is 25 yards away. The illumination was tured on the 7th setting.

2 MOA


4 MOA
 
 
These were taken at 50yds 
 
2 MOA @ 50


4 MOA @ 50
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 Thanks for posting that, Brady. The subject has come up a few times lately, and those Aimpoints are really looking good to me these days. What is your opinion of the field of view of the 2x model? Is it as restricted as some say?
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what do they recommend for close quarters? does anyone know?
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I prefer a 4 moa dot for close range stuff, Kevin ,because I feel its faster, but I think most like the 2 moa.
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at short distances can you be as accurate with 4moa vs 2moa?
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Probaby tighter groups @ 100 yards with the 2, and you can increase the dot size by turning up the brigtness intensity.
Maybe the 2 moa is the best of both worlds.
Actually, the T1 appears like a 3 moa dot to me.
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Originally posted by RONK RONK wrote:

 Thanks for posting that, Brady. The subject has come up a few times lately, and those Aimpoints are really looking good to me these days. What is your opinion of the field of view of the 2x model? Is it as restricted as some say?
 
Yea you have heard right. The one more magnification does more harm than good. It has bad field of view and a real bad tunnel effect.
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Originally posted by Brady Brady wrote:

Originally posted by RONK RONK wrote:

 Thanks for posting that, Brady. The subject has come up a few times lately, and those Aimpoints are really looking good to me these days. What is your opinion of the field of view of the 2x model? Is it as restricted as some say?
 
Yea you have heard right. The one more magnification does more harm than good. It has bad field of view and a real bad tunnel effect.
 
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Originally posted by coyote95 coyote95 wrote:

what do they recommend for close quarters? does anyone know?
 
At really close quarters it wouldn't matter much. You're splitting hairs but if you had to choose one the 4moa is the norm for close quarters.
 
As you can see at 25yds there isn't much of a difference. As you get closer in range it becomes less of a difference.
 
Also keep in mind there's a wide range of intensity settings (close to 10 if I believe) so as you increase the intensity the dot becomes larger. Something to consider if you go for the 2moa.
 
 
 
 
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The issue is not so much if  the 2moa or 4moa is useable under 100 yds- both are quite useable up close.  It is a matter of what happens to it when you get out to 200 yds and 300 yds.  AT 100 yds that 4moa dot covers 4 inches and at 200 yds that covers 8 inches anything past 200 really isnt  precise enought to stay on a man size target.  In comparison the Trijicon TA442 that I have working off the point of the triangle I can shoot a  1.5 inch group at 200 yds and up close and personal the whole triangle is a lot larger than 4moa.   The Army uses the Comp M4 with a 2moa dot and it is tought as nails.  I got to look at a 4x Trijicon ACOG today  and it is quite useable  up close as well as at distance.
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I just need to spend the money and get an aimpoint for my AR.  I looked at an Eotech a while ago and was not super impressed with the reticle in it.  Just my opinion.
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I like the 2moa, I can just crank it up for max visibility and then down for more precise shots at farther distances

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I must be just a purist....that 4 moa dot has treated me right.
If I'm looking for tighter groups, I'll throw on a scope with some zoom zoom.
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