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Hey everyone. I'm fairly new to optics so I have sought your help. I'm a school teacher on a limited budget. I plan to pruchase a scope for a new rifle for the next hunting season. I have up to $300 to spend. I've been considering two different scopes the Elite 3200 4-12 x 40 by Bushnell which features an adjustable objective or a Leupold VX-II 3x9x40 that doesn't feature an adjustable objective. I have three main questions that you may be able to answer: 1) is the adjustable objective on the bushnell an extreem advantage over the Leupold or is a standard Leupold that good with out it. 2) what are the practical advantages to having an adjustable objective *btw this will be mainly for deer hunting in fields ranging from 50 to 300 yrds. 3) is there a better scope out there in the $300 price range I'm missing out on. {I considered Nikon but saw that sooooo many of their scopes are being refurbished it did not look like a good sign}. Thank you for your time and consideration.
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Most all of the manufacturers scopes are good in this price range-which is the where most of the competition is. Adjustable objectives re-correct the parallex inherent in the physics of glass optics. Non adjustable usually have the parallex set at 100-150 yds. Parallex adjustment becomes extremely important when shooting a penny sized targets from 50 to 150 yards, and becomes less as the focal distance approaches infinity (the light rays are entering the device more parallel to the perpendicular of the axis of the scope). Most hunting scopes do not need parallex and you will have to set it for the range you will take the deer or just leave it on a convienent setting in the type of terrain you are hunting. The higher the magnification of the scope the more importance an AO becomes. A good rule of thumb might be, if the game is big enough to eat no parallex is hard to beat.

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Most folks here will tell you to stay away from AO's on a scope used for hunting, I'm not quite sure why, I guess it's just one more place for a scope to leak & it's just one more thing you have to fool with. If I purchased a hunting scope with an AO, I would purchase one that was side-mounted so it could be adjusted from most any shooting/hunting position.

 

With the magnification of the Leupold you're considering an AO would be a waste of time, you don't need an AO for anything under 10x.

 

As for the price range your looking at you've picked two great scopes. I prefer the Leupold. I've had alot of experience with them, hunting & with their customer service department. No complaints whatsoever.

 

Good luck.

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Both points well taken. Out of curriosity is the Ziess conquest scopes really worth me scounging up another $150 for the same magnafication as the Leupold?
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For a deer at that range, no AO necessary.  It would just be a distraction.

 

For a school teacher budget, for deer, for that range, try Burris FF II 3-9x40.



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I own Leupolds in various forms from VX-I, VX-II ,VX-III & a Zeiss Conquest 3-9x40mm.

 

Optically speaking, I've only compared the Zeiss to a VX-III 3.5-10x40mm under optimum conditions (bright sunny day with the sun to my back or directly overhead.) I couldn't tell much difference between the two. I hope some of the other members of the forum will weigh in with their experiences on the brightness of the two scopes during twilight.

I have hunted with this same VX-III last year in Texas and was glassing deer underneath a feeder well after (5-10 min)

after the naked eye could no longer see them. I couldn't see much detail, but I could identify bucks from does.

 

I like the overall weight of the Leupolds, but I consider the Zeiss's etched reticle a big plus, even though they're a little heavier. As far as customer service goes, I've gathered (from this forum & from an aquaintance) that Zeiss is just as good as Leupold.

 

If you're comparing the Zeiss to a VX-II, I'd definately go with the Zeiss. If you want to step-up to a VX-III vs. a Conquest.....that's a toss up for me considering the Leupolds overall weight & the various reticle choices you have with one, but from your first post, you'll only be shooting out to 300yds. so the Boone & Crockett reticle the Leupold has isn't really needed.

 

Another thing you should consider is how the scope will look on your new rifle.

 

Let us know what you decide.

 

 

 

 

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3-9 Conquest.

 

Just say NO to the AO!!

 

I like AO's on some rifles, but short range deer rigs just aren't worth it to me.

 

If your shooting mulies or elk out west at extended distances, then maybe.

I have hunted with AO's before and never had time to "dial in" a shot on an animal before.

Especially where I hunt in the Eastern Carolinas, where 50-75 yd shots are the norm.

Even at 300 yards, an AO is not going to help you shoot a deer, IMHO.  



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For all practical purposes a AO is not needed for scopes of 10x or less. 10x is more than plenty for big game purposes. I would go with the Conquest 3.5-10x44 over the Leupold anyday of the week. Also, due to the fact that the scopes bearing AO's are not as bright due to the extra lens that makes the AO function.
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