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    Posted: December/29/2013 at 22:16
Which ones will actually range GAME at long ranges?  I have an old Nikon Buckmaster 1000yd finder that'll do metal sheds at that distance, but lucky get a deer at beyond 450.  
I'd LIKE to keep it at under Leica 1600 money, but is it possible to get one that'll accurately zap a deer several hundred yards across a bean field without spending $800?
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I have had my best luck with Leica. The Zeiss victory should be comparable. This is a heck of a deal for this one. I would expect 900 - 1000 yard on deer in a bean field. Personally I would try placing some range flags at set ranges to judge the wind at the same time. Wind could be your worst enemy at that range with nothing to watch for tails showing direction and speed.


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+1 for Leica

Bushnell makes a pretty good product, I was happy with the model I had until I bought my crf1200. I tried Leupold and found it to be garbage.
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Both the Zeiss or Leica will range deer at 600 yards.  I have had both and they are both excellent products. 
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Thanks much! I hadn't even thought about a Zeiss. I saw "Victory" and didn't even click on it because I assumed it was way out of my price range. I should stop assuming....
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Rangefinder technology in general has improved markedly during the past 5-10 years. Once one company improves their LRFs, the others are forced to follow. Competition is good.

The Zeiss, Leica, and Swaro rangefinders are certainly the cream of the crop, but you're getting optical excellence along with good rangefinding function, and anything from those brands is going to be expensive.

I have a Leica LRF 1200 that I bought 10 years ago. Mine doesn't have the angle compensation you see on current units. There have been many improvements made since then, but mine will range stuff pretty reliably out to at least 700-800. Going to the 1200 yd limit requires a pretty large, reflective target.

Since then, I've used some Nikon, Bushnell, and Vortex units that had the angle compensation, and I would feel comfortable in those giving me accurate readings beyond 600, if they're rated for much further. I haven't used a great number of different LRFs in the field, so I'm certainly no expert on the subject, but I believe they've improved enough that you should get acceptable performance from most of the better brands.
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This helps me a great deal. My fear was getting a middle-of-the-road LRF and winding up with the issues I have now- a rifle dialed in a capable, but poor feedback from the range finder. I'm much more comfortable now with spending 700 or less and getting good quality.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ccoker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January/02/2014 at 10:22
I am testing a Bushnell ARC 1300 and it works great.
I have ranged deer at 500 with no problem.
much better than the Leupold RXI 1000 I had previously
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That's good to know! Have you had an opportunity to range any beyond 500 yet?
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I have the Bushnell ARC and have ranged animals out to 743 yards… however, if there is any background "junk", it gets tricky.  Centering the laser can become a "game".  I've used reflectors out to a measured 1000 and gotten consistent +or- 1 to 1.25 yards. For the money, it works pretty darn well.  However, the optics on the thing are pretty "average"... it is "adequate"… maybe.  Zeiss Victory PRF has much better optics.  


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I have an old Bushnell Elite 1500.  I have ranged a bedded bull elk right at 1000 yards with it resting on a tripod.  

The ranging capabilities are great, but the optics are dim.


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I have a leica that I bought a couple three years ago. It is supposed to to be a 800 yd rangefinder I think that is only on reflective targets. 400-450 is the most I have ever ranged a deer.

Other than that it has been a quality product.
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I like these threads as I am looking for a good range finder for the best price I can get.
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Originally posted by RifleDude RifleDude wrote:

Rangefinder technology in general has improved markedly during the past 5-10 years. Once one company improves their LRFs, the others are forced to follow. Competition is good.

The Zeiss, Leica, and Swaro rangefinders are certainly the cream of the crop, but you're getting optical excellence along with good rangefinding function, and anything from those brands is going to be expensive.

I have a Leica LRF 1200 that I bought 10 years ago. Mine doesn't have the angle compensation you see on current units. There have been many improvements made since then, but mine will range stuff pretty reliably out to at least 700-800. Going to the 1200 yd limit requires a pretty large, reflective target.

Since then, I've used some Nikon, Bushnell, and Vortex units that had the angle compensation, and I would feel comfortable in those giving me accurate readings beyond 600, if they're rated for much further. I haven't used a great number of different LRFs in the field, so I'm certainly no expert on the subject, but I believe they've improved enough that you should get acceptable performance from most of the better brands.



+1 On the Leica LRF 1200. I was able to range out to 1200 yards off of some reflective looking rocks on a mountainside.
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[QUOTE=Kickboxer]I have the Bushnell ARC and have ranged animals out to 743 yards… however, if there is any background "junk", it gets tricky.  Centering the laser can become a "game".  I've used reflectors out to a measured 1000 and gotten consistent +or- 1 to 1.25 yards. For the money, it works pretty darn well.  However, the optics on the thing are pretty "average"... it is "adequate"… maybe.  Zeiss Victory PRF has much better optics.  


The junk shouldn't be much of an issue.  I have timber too thick to range in at my back, but in front there are no obstructions other than bean stubble for over 1,200yds.  Are the animals you ranged at that distance deer-size game?
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Originally posted by huff143 huff143 wrote:

[QUOTE=Kickboxer]I have the Bushnell ARC and have ranged animals out to 743 yards… however, if there is any background "junk", it gets tricky.  Centering the laser can become a "game".  I've used reflectors out to a measured 1000 and gotten consistent +or- 1 to 1.25 yards. For the money, it works pretty darn well.  However, the optics on the thing are pretty "average"... it is "adequate"… maybe.  Zeiss Victory PRF has much better optics.  


The junk shouldn't be much of an issue.  I have timber too thick to range in at my back, but in front there are no obstructions other than bean stubble for over 1,200yds.  Are the animals you ranged at that distance deer-size game?

deer and cows...
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I've found so much depends on the conditions. I've been unable to range even with high-end units just because of branches being in the way. But no doubt they will work better. I started with a Nikon 440 and sold it to a bow hunter friend. For a couple years I had a Swaro and it would range out to 1900 yards on large outcroppings and easily on game out to 800, occasionally 900. But then, after taking down one animal at long range, I decided I didn't need to range that far. It just wasn't worth a bad or inhumane shot.

I got a deal on the Zeiss, netted another $200 or so off the Swaro, and have enjoyed the faster, lighter model. Sometimes you still get thwarted because of conditions. Generally, it has worked well. In more open country, from decent vantage points, I had no problem tracking moving deer out around 700-800 yards. (Other than being a bit pissed that one of my hunting buddies was impatient and spooked them when they were only 300 yards away).

Basically, buy as much over-capacity as you can comfortably justify paying for. And expect to have it work fair to great up to half the advertised range.
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Great reply, thanks! From what I've read from other people's posts, what you said about ranging half the advertised range seems to be the norm.
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Let me make a suggestion if you are hunting from a box blind walk each hundred yards and plant a steel post with a sign on it out to as far as you want ranging back toward the box blind.  I do pretty much the same thing bow hunting  20 yds 30 yds 40yds using colored flaggin tape on brush to mark distance.

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That's a great idea, and it'd work in a couple of my spots where I know where to expect them to show up. My biggest field is pretty wide though, so I'd have to put several sets out in a fan pattern.
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Originally posted by huff143 huff143 wrote:

[QUOTE=Kickboxer]I have the Bushnell ARC and have ranged animals out to 743 yards… however, if there is any background "junk", it gets tricky.  Centering the laser can become a "game".  I've used reflectors out to a measured 1000 and gotten consistent +or- 1 to 1.25 yards. For the money, it works pretty darn well.  However, the optics on the thing are pretty "average"... it is "adequate"… maybe.  Zeiss Victory PRF has much better optics.  


The junk shouldn't be much of an issue.  I have timber too thick to range in at my back, but in front there are no obstructions other than bean stubble for over 1,200yds.  Are the animals you ranged at that distance deer-size game?

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the only day I've really hunted this year I had to pass up a HUGE buck because of freakin' cows.  Too bad you can't shoot 'em...
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the only day I've really hunted this year I had to pass up a HUGE buck because of freakin' cows.  Too bad you can't shoot 'em...
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A friend's cows… he was adamant he did not want me to shoot them...
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