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I have a few questions. I like to think I'm a good shooter, with having a 10 shot 1" grouping at 25m with the standard military M68, Comp M, Red dot, a whole bunch of different names, you get the picture. I am currently wanting to build a Model 700 Sendero SFII in 7mm Rem Mag, and was wanting to know what should I change out stock wise to help increase barrel life, accuracy, and overall reliablilty. I know the Model 700 is an great starting weapon when it comes to reliability and accuracy, but with a Schmidt and Bender 3-12X50 variable power classic hunting scope, I want to be able to shoot groups of 3-5 rounds in 2-3" at 500 yards, which isn't too farfetched, but I have no clue what would be good scope rings and bases, a good barrel if the 26" fluted won't work, a bolt(read something about changing out for accuracy) and a new trigger, even though I've heard that their stock trigger isnt bad. I also plan on using Winchester Supreme Ballistic Silvertips in 150 grain, just because I've never heard bad about that ammo. I have this one chance to build an amazing rifle, and don't mind spending a little money, even if my wife thinks otherwise, haha. I plan on using this set up for whitetail and elk mainly, maybe some blacktail and mules at one point, when I find the land, and I hope to be able to engage the elk no further than 800 yds.
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If you want a list of good accuracy smiths, I can give you name and contact info.
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I'm learning the lingo, so I'm taking that good accuracy smiths are actual gunsmiths, who know what they are doing?
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Originally posted by LRSMike LRSMike wrote:

I'm learning the lingo, so I'm taking that good accuracy smiths are actual gunsmiths, who know what they are doing?


Yes!
Sorry, not trying to confuse.  There are gunsmiths and there are gunsmiths.
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I'll be nice....

800 yards is a very long way to shoot an animal.   As for the rifle, I'd get a .300 win mag instead.  
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See, every forum I read about 7mm Mags everyone also says get a .300, but the thing is, I'll more likely shoot whitetail, mule deer, and hogs more than elk, because of costs, and if I get the chance to elk hunt, but I'm not wanting to have my shoulder replaced in three years from a .300 mag lol
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Originally posted by LRSMike LRSMike wrote:

See, every forum I read about 7mm Mags everyone also says get a .300, but the thing is, I'll more likely shoot whitetail, mule deer, and hogs more than elk, because of costs, and if I get the chance to elk hunt, but I'm not wanting to have my shoulder replaced in three years from a .300 mag lol


IMO the 7RM is enough for what you are talking about.

Personally, I like the bullet selection in 7mm better too, with higher BC bullets that work for deer sized game.
I took a buck antelope beyond your parameter this past year with a cartridge performance less than your 7mmRM would do with proper bullets.
Also a good friend with a rifle used a 280 Rem and took a buck right out to the same distance you are considering.   Also, I have killed several bull elk and a number of cows using the 284 Win case out to 540 yards, but in a singfle-shot specials pistol.
Proper bullet+proper placement=dead critter
I like the 7mm for LR hunting myself
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I would go the route of "crying once" and get your rifle as accurate as possible, then practice, practice, practice from field positions in both good and bad wind conditions.
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Yeah, I think I'm set on the caliber, although I appreciate the suggestions. The only thing really is the scope. I love the way it looks, the reviews I've heard were nothing short of awesome, although the only complaints are weight and price, which is fine by me, this will be the one chance I truly get to put some money into a rifle, so mind as well go big. The weight won't be unbearable, for I carry 100 pounds in a rucksack every so often on my back, plus an M4 with acessories weighs about 10-12 pounds anyways. I was just wanting to get some ideas put together for the rifle itself, mounts, the scope, which doesnt mean I'm buying the S&B, bases, barrel, trigger, bolt handle, recoil pad, bipods. and any little thing that will help out that I don't know about. 

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 S&B - Great scope, period
 bases & Rings - TPS, Badger, Warne, Talley, egw.... I am sure I left some out
 barrel- Factory should hold up fine for the first few thousand rounds
 trigger - drop in should be all you need, timney
 bolt handle -  if you wear gloves and rely on fast follow up shots get it. if not its only for looks.
recoil pad - depends on what comes on the gun originally, normal pads are ok sometimes.
bipods- harris,


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Originally posted by SVT_Tactical SVT_Tactical wrote:

 S&B - Great scope, period
 bases & Rings - TPS, Badger, Warne, Talley, egw.... I am sure I let some out
 barrel- Factory should hold up fine for the first few thousand rounds
 trigger - drop in should be all you need, timney
 bolt handle -  if you wear gloves and rely on fast follow up shots get it. if not its only for looks.
recoil pad - depends on what comes on the gun originally, normal pads are ok sometimes.
bipods- harris,
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i meant left, fixed

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haha seems like you two know each other. I was looking also at doing a custom build, thanks to Chris F, who recommended mcmillan, shilen, tps, badger, timney, and a few other things, but id still be out 1500 on a rifle, bare minimum for the custom, because the stock and barrel is already like 13 something. but im sure with that sendero, a new trigger, and S&B, harris HBLM-S 9-13" bipods, and a slow deliberate trigger pull will put me in a 1/2 at 100, don't you think?
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if you do your part, yes

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If you have not bought the rifle yet you may want to check with George at GA Precision
They build some accurate rifles at reasionable prices for what you get.
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yeah i checked them out, they are a little out of my price range for the rifle alone, my goal was around 3, althought someone gave me the idea to just purchase the sendero, shoot for a while, log my data, and start swapping in custom pieces one at a time.
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So is it 3 for just the rifle? or 3 for everything?
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well, i found the rifle, the sendero, for 1000, and the S&B for 1700, which leaves me at 2700, roughly 80 for the bipods, and another 1 something for the timney trigger. Plus this is all without military discounts, willing that the places selling these things honor that.
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Not downing the S&B but i would spend about half that on a cheaper but comprable scope, say an elite by bushnell or nikon or many others.  Lets say 800 on optics, 

1000 - rifle
800-optics
200-trigger & install
75-bipod
125 for rings and base
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$2200.00 there 
 
Then you can spend the rest on ammo, lots of it too! and other things like a mildot master, sling, spotter, and the list goes on.
 
Others can chime in as well on sub $1k optics that will fit the bill of this too I definately don't know them all.


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a LRF would be put in place for the spotting scope, right?
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LRF?

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HAHA I came up with my own acronym, Laser Range Finder
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