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Need some help.  I'm restoring my first real gun I ever owned after my Daisy BB gun -- a 1947 .22 caliber Remington 511 Scoremaster rifle.  Dad gave it to me in 1953 on my 8th birthday.  It was equipped with a 3/4" Mossberg 4X mounted with a side mount that "leaned over" sufficiently to keep the scope directly over centerline.  Needless to say, the scope is a nice antique, but nothing more.  A replacement 3/4" scope which would last longer than one visit to the range/woods, just doesn't exist.  Therefore,  I am obviously having to go to a 1" scope.  I am fully aware of Weaver's side mount (whose drill holes matches the ones existing in my rifle) and the two optional (long and short) rings/bracket sets which are compatible to the mount for this bolt action rifle.  The issue with this solution is that the scope will be "off centerline" of the rifle.  
Question number 1 is have you ever shot an (offset) sidemounted scoped rifle and what are your thoughts of the experience?  Does it feel OK, impair accuracy, requires cheek-pad, or would you stay away from it at all costs.
 
Second Question.
Not too long ago while surfing some of the web's gun/optics sites, I saw for sale a recently designed side mount which did accommodate 1" rings and did maintain the scope over the barrel/receiver centerline.  It wasn't the one for the Mosin Nagant Russian WWII 1891-30 bolt action rifle which required modification of the bolt handle; it was for regular older rimfire or centerfire sporting rifles which used side mounts and obsolete scope sizes like my 3/4" rings/scope.  Unfortunately, I did not make it a "favorite" on my computer at the time, and all my Googles turn up nothing.  Have any of you seen/heard of any such offering that is available?
 
I know I could always fill the 4 drill holes and redrill for a top mount, but I do not want my little rifle treasure looking like a Gunsmith Training Academy practice piece.
 
I would appreciate your input.
Thanks.
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Hmmmm.....First: Redfield used to make a decent 3/4 inch 4X scope ( with, I think, 100 yard parallax--I'm not sure ) that can be found on eBay now and then....
 
and you didn't mention what kind of mount you have.... other than side mount over centerline....
 
It would probably be easier to come up with a 3/4 inch scope than a side mount these days---especially if you didn't want to drill any more holes...
 
[Wait a minute!!.....Redfield Sportster 3/4 inch RIMFIRE scope---1965-1973!!  Also
Redfield Traditional Rimfire 3/4 inch scope 1974-1985...!*  These scopes look precisely like their bigger brothers......look for them on eBay and keep the old mounts!!!]
 
 
*OLD RIFLE SCOPES  Nick Stroebel
 
I have seen these scopes on eBay now and then!!  Cheap!!   Check it out.          --Ed
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 I can't help you with your mount problem, without getting my hands on it, but If you are unable to find a commercial solution, your best alternatives would be to have a good gunsmith plug weld the holes in the side and re-drill for a top-mount base.  That would require a refinish job on the metalwork though.
  Or you could see if a local machinist or gunsmith would custom make a mount for you to use the existing holes.  It could get expensive, but may be worth it for sentimental reasons. Make sure he knows EXACTLY how you want it to work before you commission him to do it.  Take him the scope and rings you want to use, and give him parameters to work within.
 Don't mount it off to the side if you can avoid it, unless you are cross-eye dominant. (Right-handed, left eye dominant.)
 Good luck with Ed's suggestions, too. With luck you might find a  3/4 in. tube that is going to mount right up without re-doing everything.
 
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Williams Guide Line used to make a side mount that could mount rings either along side the bore or over the bore ( depending on which ring you bought)....but I don't believe they make them anymore. I don't know if they would fit on a 22 receiver, either.  But, they did exist at one time.
 
I just found them in a 1975 Shooter's Bible. There was a mount that fit the Remington 760 pump rifle--which also fit the 572 Remington pump 22. No mention of the bolt action 22s.
Williams Quick Convertible side mount....Regular rings place scope offset---HCO Rings ( High Central Overbore) place rings high over the bore to allow use of iron sights.
 
All this might not be of any value....Smile                       --Ed
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