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Sounds like it,  wish we had something similar.
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HEY Lynn have you had a chance to work anymore with that IOR? I picked one up 2 months ago & it has now replace my Trijicon 3.5-3.5 on my RR ATH 5.56.Maybe you can do a review with this work out your giving it.Personally I think that scope is about as good as it gets to ride on a AR!
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While we were waiting for it to get dark, a friend decided to check the battery in his scope. It was dead, so I checked mine. It was dead. Fortunately, Kenny had batteries for our scopes, and tools. It was a bear getting the battery cover off. It was the original battery, so I can't complain about the time it lasted, but I am currious about how long the new one will last.
I ran my llumination on 3 or 4, and my power was on 1.5. Probably should have been at 2.5x, but I forgot to check my magnification before I started. I was too focused on garding my elevation setting.
I'm liking the IOR 1.5-8x. The rifle stage started and ended with targets that were almost contact distance, with targets that could have been about 70yds, and I had no problem with any of them.
The real test of the IOR will come in October at the Assault Rifle Match.
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Thanks for that update I'll remember to carry a few batteries.
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Make sure you can get the battery cover off too. I had to use a small pair of channel locks with a rag and a quarter to get the cover off. I think some old woman that put bottle tops on screw top beer bottles put that cap on. 
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You let your wife play with yur scope?!?!!?
 
Actually that sounds like my grandma Arley.
 
She had two nicknames.... Big Red and Strongarm Arley.  She was known to accidently twist the doorknob off of more than one locked door! Shocked
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Roll on Floor LaughingYou crack me up Bud...........
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But it was the truth!!!  Honest and funny!Big Grin
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She must have been fun at Christmas with the chestnuts.
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I think she could crack Macadamia nuts with two fingers!
 
Actuall she had a huge pecan tree in her yard and she was forever cracking them and eating the meat while she worked in the garden.  I remember once she got mad about something and literally pulerized the two pecans she had it her hand!!!  Scary old Puritan woman she was!
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Almost forgot; I used a Mouseberg 930 JM Pro in the shotgun match. I mounted a 500 lumen flashlight with a remote swich at the barrel/magazine support, using a short Picatinny rail and offset mount. The light ran along the barrel with the offset mount, and when I turned it on, it lit up the fiber optic front sight like a Christmas tree light. It was very fast; I was finding and sighting on targets faster than I could think to press the trigger. I like this setupBig Grin
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Shooting with a flashlight, Hmmm... as for me, in a "situation", I'd be shooting AT the lights.
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Originally posted by Alan Robertson Alan Robertson wrote:

Shooting with a flashlight, Hmmm... as for me, in a "situation", I'd be shooting AT the lights.
Can'tshoot what you can't see. Can't hit if you can't see your sights. Ever try hitting a bright light shinning on you?
If you have never shot in the dark, you really do not know how difficult it is.
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Originally posted by Alan Robertson Alan Robertson wrote:

Shooting with a flashlight, Hmmm... as for me, in a "situation", I'd be shooting AT the lights.
Can'tshoot what you can't see. Can't hit if you can't see your sights. Ever try hitting a bright light shinning on you?
If you have never shot in the dark, you really do not know how difficult it is.
The competitions you've been attending sound like a lot of fun. Practice makes perfect.
My comments don't have much to do with your competency or competition.

One can effectively shoot in the dark- even pitch black- with practice.  One can get somewhat proficient naturally aiming w/out sights with a variety of firearms in day or night and probably should.
You can hit what you can't see. You can hit what you can see better.

My rich uncle used to have me engage targets in the dark without a light.
I did pretty good.
One learns to shoot AT lights... who sees who first? Do they get to shoot at your flashlight or your muzzle blast?
One can also learn where to shoot from just listening to very soft sounds.
 know a former nug who could tell stories about havin' a smoke at night and then hearing the busy bees... buzz  buzz buzz buzz around your ears and then... the bang bang bang, so somebody over on that hill half a click away could shoot at cigarette glows at night. They didn't turn on their flashlight.
 One can even have spotlights sweeping you and they'll never see you in the dirt if you don't move or show them your face or they don't get a reflection from something shiny, but you see them. Pucker factor.

As before, the competition sounds like a lot of fun.
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I've taught a lot of police to shoot in the dark. I've taught a lot of police to search buildings in the dark. I've been trained to shoot in the dark. I've trained in force on force encounters with active shooters. If you can identify your target and see your sights in the dark, then you are in good shape, but it's really just deminished light. If you can't see your target or your sights, you NEED a light. You can't call your bullits back, and they can't distinguish between friend and foe. You can practice point shooting all you want, but under stress your skill deminishes, and if you can't see your target, your depending on luck, especially when bullits are flying in the dark. It is better to have a light in the dark than to try and religh on some false sense of hiding in the dark. This isn't just theory, but fact proven by experience.
War zones are different from your home, neighborhood, ally, or office building. In a war zone the enemy is over there somewhere, and if I think I know where he is, I can use massive amounts of firepower to neutralize him if he gives me a chance. If I'm on home ground and I shoot at a bump in the night, I damn well better know who made the bump, why they are making the bump, and where they are.
One other thing, shooting at a lit cigarette isn't the same as aiming at a 500 lumin light shining in yiour face.
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Good info Lynn,Thanks........
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Shot the last night match of the year over the weekend. Had a ball, and it was a tough match, especially the rifle stage.
Murphy is alive and well in so many different forms, and that has almost gotten to be one of the fun parts of this match for me. 
Shot the rifle stage first. Instead of the ISPC targets, we had 30 steel targets on wood stakes from 25 to 35 yards. Most of the targets were 4" in diameter, a few 6" and 4 12" targets, and stretched across a wide arc. You shot from inside one of the range trucks through the gapeing hole in the windshield (courtesy of a fallen tree), and the truck was covered with a thick layer of dried mud. Of course, each target left standing adds 5 seconds to your score.
When I shot the course, I fired 2 rounds and then nothing. Tap rack click, what the...., tap rack click, oh snap. Pulled the mag, rattle rattle; bad mag, changed mags, and started shooting. 5 or 6 rounds and I can't see the targets for the dust coming up off the hood. Had the scope set at 6x and had no field of view, but it wasn't hard to hit em when I could find em or see em. Had to shift my position to get to the targets on the right. Reload and look for more targets, shift position,and shot 2 or 3 more and I was done.
I'm going to have to learn to stop fighting the clock. I should have taken the time to lower the power of the scope to increase my field of view. Fighting the clock cost me a target on the shotgun stage too; just walked pass it, and didn't see it. It's artificial stress that I'm failing to control. Had no issues with the pistol stages.
All in all, it was a fun and educational match. It's a shame this was the last one for the year; especially since the sun sets earlier now. 
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your sun been setting for several years now...

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That does sound like a ton of fun!  I wish I could spend a month or two under Lynn's tutelage.  Both on the work bench and teh range.  I'm sure he has a ton of knowledge to pass on...one of them I forgot more than you'll ever know guys!
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Originally posted by budperm budperm wrote:

your sun been setting for several years now...

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