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    Posted: May/04/2013 at 08:55
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 New here guys, I came looking for the most affordable Scopes and sights (All kinds, reflex, traditional etc.) that will be at the bare minim "dependable", meaning it will not fall apart under recoil and hold a zero. I just want the lest expensive 0ptics that work. No gimmicks or fancy stuff. just need something that I can go to the range or plink with. Please do not answer if you are an optics snob and believe that you have to at least spend more that you paid for the gun on the optics.  If I can get a scope that at the bare minimum holds a zero and be Dependable, I don't care if it cost $19.99. what is the bare minimum? I have ak's, Ar's, sks, pistol carbines, 10-22's, bolt rifles, etc.
 Any suggestions. Thanks.
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I've had good luck with the Simmons 44 mag series.  Currently have one on an old Rem 742 in 30/06.  
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Old school Japanese made Optimas ; these were the standard spring air gun scopes of the 1970s, designed to take the recoil and have stood the test of time, you can still find them in general use

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The problem with any low price optic is going to be dependability. Meaning it might work, but for how long? I have had good luck with Burris FFII. It held zero on 30/06, and a very light 300 WSM right up until I went with something different. At about $200, and its Customer Service is pretty good, that would be MY bottom dollar. http://swfa.com/Burris-3-9x40-Fullfield-II-Rifle-Scope-P7932.aspx
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http://swfa.com/Tasco-World-Class-Riflescopes-C205.aspx
 
 
 
If you cant find a reasonably priced tough scope on those links you should go back and look again.   Scopes that will be used on different types of rifles for different types of applications require different design. A guy can kill game with a low cost optic so long as it holds its zero.  It may not have the best glass and it may not have desirable features (both of which COST MORE) but I can guarantee that a lot of game has been taken with TASCO, WEAVER, REDFIELD, And SUPER SNIPER (originally a Tasco Product but rights to produce this line belong to SWFA and the  line has grown to include some optics that compete well with the most expensive out there but at a bargain price.)  

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Thanks guys for the input and opinions. This is all good information, keep it comming. Some of the economy scopes ive noticed have lifetime warrenties, that says a lot too me that a company will stand behind their product, or is this just a sales gimmick and they are just banking on people not making warrenty claims???
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Urimaginaryfrnd, the Tasco world class scopes you linked me too are all under $100. As far as holding zero and durability, how do they compare to the other scopes you posted links to?

Also, Reflex sights, what are some bare minimum models that will hold up? I see the weaver one was like $200, I can't see spending that kind of money unless there is nothing else.
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+1 for Burris ffii
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The FFII is a good choice but it will run over$150 generally. For scopes in the 20 range I would look for a older Japanese made Bushnell banner or sport view on ebay and stick with a fixed 4x . I have also had a taco silver antler 4x40 for a number of years that I picked up in a trade. It has served on a number of rifles over the years as a temp solution while I was deciding what else to go with or if I wanted to keep the rifle. It has worked well. I firmly believe in the cheaper scopes that you should follow the kiss rule.
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I have Redfield scopes on my 257Wby and my 7mm Rem mag, no problems in the last two years. Made by leupold, lifetime no hassle warranty, Reasonably priced, What's not to like?..
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I like the Weaver Grand Slams.

Maybe your thread could read: There are zero scopes that hold their zero, and are easy on the wallet!
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Originally posted by stuffdogg stuffdogg wrote:

...lifetime warrenties... (I)s this just a sales gimmick...???


I wouldn't necessarily call them a 'gimmick,' but warranties are definitely, unquestionably sales/marketing tools.  Some 'warranties' (like nearly every item in a Harbor Freight store) are about multiplying the fair selling price by 5 or 10, and just planning multiple no-charge replacements for the few people who try to actually use the tools.  Other warranties don't have so jaded a perspective going in.

Nevertheless, all warranties add to the selling price of an item (like how the 'service plan' they try to sell you at the checkstand costs extra).  If the market for that item is competitive enough, either everyone will appear to have the same type of warranty, or else the products with better warranties will have a significantly higher price (assuming identical components and assembly location).  Generally it's some of each.
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+1 for Burris FF2.  I was out today shooting my CZ453 with the 4.5-14x42 and I love the combo.  I have the 3-9x40 on my 700 30-06 and it's been holding zero over the last 100 rounds just fine.

http://www.competitorss.com/brand.cfm?contentID=productDetail&brand=BU&prodID=BU200321&prodTitle=Burris%203-9x40%20Fullfield%20E1%E2%84%A2%20Riflescope%20Plex%20Reticle%20Matte

http://www.competitorss.com/brand.cfm?contentID=productDetail&brand=BU&prodID=BU200321&prodTitle=Burris%203-9x40%20Fullfield%20E1%E2%84%A2%20Riflescope%20Plex%20Reticle%20Matte

See if SWFA would do a price match and you've got the best scope you'll find for under $150.  If you go buy a Simmons, BSA, or Tasco to save another $40 then you deserve a kick in the head.
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[QUOTE=billyburl2]The problem with any low price optic is going to be dependability. Meaning it might work, but for how long? I have had good luck with Burris FFII. It held zero on 30/06, and a very light 300 WSM right up until I went with something different. At about $200, and its Customer Service is pretty good, that would be MY bottom dollar. http://swfa.com/Burris-3-9x40-Fullfield-II-Rifle-Scope-P7932.aspx[/QUOTE]
 
That is a good Billy, but I actually liked the Vortex Diamondback over the FF2.
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Fixed power scopes are generally more dependable than variables.  
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Originally posted by Skylar McMahon Skylar McMahon wrote:

[QUOTE=billyburl2]The problem with any low price optic is going to be dependability. Meaning it might work, but for how long? I have had good luck with Burris FFII. It held zero on 30/06, and a very light 300 WSM right up until I went with something different. At about $200, and its Customer Service is pretty good, that would be MY bottom dollar. http://swfa.com/Burris-3-9x40-Fullfield-II-Rifle-Scope-P7932.aspx[/QUOTE]
 
That is a good Billy, but I actually liked the Vortex Diamondback over the FF2.


+1 on the Vortex Diamondback.
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Do a web search for Nitrex TR1 rifle scope for sale. You should find the one company that had Nitrex inventory to dispose of. Box of scope will have Nitrex by Weaver on it....TR1 is very comparable to a Weaver Grand Slam, so its warranty is handled by Weaver. Last time I checked, there were still a few models in the 3-10 power range still left. Was around a $280 scope, you can buy for around $120. Very nice glass and adjustments track well.....its a bargain.

At same place as the Nitrex are the aspherical lens Weaver 40/44 scopes that have been well discounted in price. The 3.8-12x44 A.O. aspherical one is around $120, depends on the reticle. Others sell this scope for around $200 plus, last time I checked.

Own a couple of Nitrex and the model Weaver 40/44 mentioned....nice scopes with very decent optics in them.

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If it was me I would go Nikon prostaff or burris fullfield II for your centerfire rifle stuff (budget).  Ive had good luck with both.  And maybe a Tasco world class or Bushnell Banner for the plinking stuff.
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