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Hello all!
I have been trolling this forum for some time and finally bit the bullet (no pun intended) and registered!

I am currently in Afghanistan, but am planning on building a "tacti-cool" rifle of sorts when I get home in about 6 weeks.

Up till now, about the "nicest" scope I personally own has been a 6-24x BSA contender... After dealing with higher end products such as Leupold Mark 4's, Elcans, Acogs, Aimpoints, and EOTechs on a daily basis, I wanna try stepping up closer to that level of quality!

As far as my uses for the rifle, it will mostly be for punching paper and maybe tactical competition. I will be reloading my own ammo. I have much experience with iron sights and consider myself to be a better than average shot (I the the only guy in our Squadron not in the sniper section that shoots 40 out of 40 regularly on our rifle quals with a standard issue m4, and I shot a perfect on my last M249 qual as well). I would like to have the potential to try my hand at 1000 yards down the road.... Not competitively or anything, just to see if I can hit paper (A BIG piece of paper! lol).

The main features I would like are a mil dot reticle, mil turrets, fine enough crosshair and enough power and clairity to see targets at 1000. FFP is preferable, but not nessisary by any means. Variable power would be nice (I wash thinking in the 4ish to 14ish range) but I have no problem with fixed power. And an Illuminated reticle would be icing on the cake!

The main scopes I have been thinking about are the Super Snipers, Millet TRS, and maybe something from Nikkon or Vortex. Right now a truly high end optic like an IOR or NF is just not in the cards. I really like the sounds of this deal: http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-3-9x42-Packaged-Deal-P44443.aspx At 600 bucks, its a bit out of my range, but I can scrape together a few extra pennies where I can untill I can afford it.... Especially since it comes with all kinds of cool accessories!  Plus, I think it would hold a decent amount of its value to put towrds a $1000+ scope down the road. I just dont know if the crosshairs are fine enough or if 9x is enough for 1k yards? I know 9x doesnt suffer from much parallax, but at 800-1000 and lacking a parralax adjustment, would this scope still hole it's own?

I have heard good things about the Falcon line of optics, but they are not carried by SWFA, and I would like to patronize them, so please keep suggestions to SWFA products.

Thanks!
Logan





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You already posted my recomendation.....SuperSniper 3x9 or if you give up the FFP get the 20x SS if your gonna spend most of your time out at a grand
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9x at 1000 is OK if you want to just hit the big piece of paper, but if you want decent groups I would definitely go higher magnification.  20x or more would not hurt.  Assuming good glass, mirage would be a huge factor
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Thanks for the quick replies!

I think fixed 20x is a bit much.... I wont be spending much time at 1000 yards... Just a lil bit to see if I can do it!

At 9x, 1000 yards would appear 111.1 yards away. I have shot acceptable enough groups at 100 yards with a 100 year old bolt action 22lr with open sites, so i think it would be feasible..... but far from ideal! lol

Anyone know how thick the SS 3-9x crass hairs are at a 1000 yards?


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then 3x9 is the way to go
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Logan, first off Thank You for your service and Welcome to the OT. No disrespect to anybody but I've seen some pretty good shooters at 1000 yards with steel sights so magnafication is not all it's cracked up to be. Consistantly hitting your target at 1K is more a funtion of good dope and excellent weapon control. repeat every step in the process the same way everytime. Get the best quality glass you can afford not the highest magnification.
Good luck Bro.

Again welcome to the OT!


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Welcome Logan and Thank you!  You are one that helps make this site possible.  God Bless.
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Thanks for the warm welcome!

I ran across another scope that caught my attention.... The Leupold Mark 2's. I know they dont quite meet my requirments, but Does anyone have any experience with these? How does their vertical adjustment range compare to the SS's? One thing I like about the SS's is that typically you don't need a canted scope base! I know they are 1/2 moa adjustment, and that is about 5.235" per click @ 1000 (If my MOA math is right, anyway).... I think that is fine enough for me because I dont think I could shoot a grouping any finer that that by a long shot at 1000yrds!

Thanks for the input
Logan



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