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Good grief, having been a shooter for more than half a century, there might be a presumption that all that experience would eliminate bonehead mistakes. And yet yesterday I trucked out to the range to sight in my venerable Model 94 .32 Winny Special, on which I finally installed a Williams aperature to replace the original buckhorn which old eyes now find difficult.
 
Setting the board at 50 yards to get on the paper, I was puzzled by an almost total lack of recoil, and the fact that I could not get on the paper. Finally I placed a couple of ragged looking holes, but most would simply fly somewhere.
 
I moved the board in to 25 yds and was astounded to still be off the paper! Finally I punched some erratically placed holes, but they were wild, even at 25 yards, and the holes were ragged and elongated. I was utterly befuddled.
 
While staring cluelessly at the target board, I happened to look down at the bench and for the first time realized I had been feeding the .32 with 30-30 ammunition. As waves of embarrassment and chagrin swept over me, I then became amazed how those undersized 170 grain flat points had been rattling down the bore with gas blowing by all sides and had instantly tumbled to the degree that one hit the 25 yard board at a full 90-degree, flat sideways angle to the bore.
 
The same old eyes that could no longer handle the buckhorn open sights also could not handle reading the label on my ammunition boxes (reloads-I also load for the 30-30 among others).
 
I hope there is a lesson here for all, no matter what level of experience, not to dispense with the basics, such as confirming you have the right ammo for the gun before firing!
 
Maybe there is another shooter or two who has a similar kind of story to tell?
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Wow Terry, hope it didnt' damage the gun.  You get a chance to inspect it? 
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Originally posted by SVT_Tactical SVT_Tactical wrote:

Wow Terry, hope it didnt' damage the gun.  You get a chance to inspect it? 
No, no trouble that way whatever with the under-sized projectiles. There was no pressure, which accounted for the lack of felt recoil (it was kind of like shooting a noisy .22). Had things gone in reverse, somehow managing to chamber a .32 in a 30-30, it would have been catastrophic. Happily, I don't think you could ever force a .32 into a 30-30 without knowing something was terribly wrong.
 
All in all, it still made me feel pretty dopey.
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I wouldn't feel dopey, it happens, no body here can claim perfection... we are all human.
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  Had a guy show up yrs back to sight in a .270 Win and a .25-06.  He was in a hurry and handed me a .25-06 rd when I was sighting the .270Win. Coulda been interesting vice versa.  No more rushing,no more than one type cartridge at the shooting bench,and I'll pick up the next rd myself,thank ya!
 
  Almost forgot.  A M94 in 32 WIN SPCL!!!!  Got a friend of mine whose been wanting me to find one for her husband.  Seems he let one go yrs back that belonged to his mom.  Alcohol'll do that to ya.


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No Harm, No foul, just a lesson learned which is a welcome.
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I ran a couple 260 rounds thru my 308 one time.
 
people were watching.............darnit
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I'm quite sure that the only reason I have never had a similar experience is because none of my guns chamber rounds that are in any way similar to one another.  Otherwise I'd be in real trouble.
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 Had a friend hand me his Marlin 336 35rem once and said my son got it jammed can you get it out, I brought it home only to find he stuck a 30/06 in it.I had to remove the bolt then drive a cussioned cleaning rod down the tube.
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Originally posted by rjtfroggy rjtfroggy wrote:

 Had a friend hand me his Marlin 336 35rem once and said my son got it jammed can you get it out, I brought it home only to find he stuck a 30/06 in it.I had to remove the bolt then drive a cussioned cleaning rod down the tube.
 
I tried that once myself.  Didn't get jammed however; was able to remove at the range.  Was embarassing though.  Was loading 2 "real" muzzleloaders one time, put powder in one and patched ball in the other.... OOOOOPPPSSS! Loco Knew something was wrong when the ramrod almost disappeared.  Thanks goodness for ball and patch pullers.
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Originally posted by magshooter1 magshooter1 wrote:

Originally posted by rjtfroggy rjtfroggy wrote:

 Had a friend hand me his Marlin 336 35rem once and said my son got it jammed can you get it out, I brought it home only to find he stuck a 30/06 in it.I had to remove the bolt then drive a cussioned cleaning rod down the tube.
 
I tried that once myself.  Didn't get jammed however; was able to remove at the range.  Was embarassing though.  Was loading 2 "real" muzzleloaders one time, put powder in one and patched ball in the other.... OOOOOPPPSSS! Loco Knew something was wrong when the ramrod almost disappeared.  Thanks goodness for ball and patch pullers.
I have seen a couple of ramrods launched downrage over the years! (Not by me, thankfully --yet)
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 LOL!  How did they group?
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Well, that was a very fortunate adventure. 
 
I was just mentioning here about six or seven months ago that one time I walked out the door to go shoot a skunk or something and instead of grabbing my favorite little Remington 722 300 Savage, I decided to grab my Model 70 30-06 to go shoot skunky-pants.  But, out of habit, I grabbed several 300 Savage cartridges!!   Mouth Taped Shut
 
Out in the driveway, I loaded up Eek....but didn't close the bolt.  I was looking around to see where that skunk had gone ( he was not in sight ).  In a moment I looked down at the magazine and thought to myself: ' How come those cartridges are so short?' 
 
Whew!!    That would have been a disaster if I had pulled the trigger in this case!! 
 
Lucky.   
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Luckily I have not done that. Not yet!!!
 
I have seen a 308 down a 30-06. Fireforms the case nice and straight!!!
 
 
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Originally posted by Terry Lamb Terry Lamb wrote:

Originally posted by magshooter1 magshooter1 wrote:

[QUOTE=rjtfroggy]
 Had a friend hand me his Marlin 336 35rem once and said my son got it jammed can you get it out, I brought it home only to find he stuck a 30/06 in it.I had to remove the bolt then drive a cussioned cleaning rod down the tube.
 
I tried that once myself.  Didn't get jammed however; was able to remove at the range.  Was embarassing though.  Was loading 2 "real" muzzleloaders one time, put powder in one and patched ball in the other.... OOOOOPPPSSS! Loco Knew something was wrong when the ramrod almost disappeared.  Thanks goodness for ball and patch pullers.
I have seen a couple of ramrods launched downrage over the years! (Not by me, thankfully --yet)[/QUOTE]
Yep, same here.  I was opening my mouth to tell this guy that the ramrod was still in his Knight when he fired.  I told him what he had done and he didn't believe me......until he couldn't find his ramrod Shocked  We later found it about 60 yds down range. 
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I learned many years ago that you dont lay extra AR-15 mags on the hood of the truck then use the hood for a rest the sight is way above the hood the barrel isnt, in fact its about two magazines high -- well one and a half anyway.
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Originally posted by Urimaginaryfrnd Urimaginaryfrnd wrote:

I learned many years ago that you dont lay extra AR-15 mags on the hood of the truck then use the hood for a rest the sight is way above the hood the barrel isnt, in fact its about two magazines high -- well one and a half anyway.
As a highschool lad, hunting with my Dad and another of his NCO buddies for antelope in Montana, we stopped for the old Sarge to shoot an antelope. Targets were about 300 yds, slightly downslope. Sarge used the hood of his brand-new 1964 Ford pickup as a rest, with his scope-equipped ought-six. First shot, no apparent hit, second shot, no hit, third shot, ditto, nor could we see where they were going. After third, the animals left, and then we noticed all three rounds entered the top of the hood and exited high on the quarter panel of that Ford. He didn't even shoot a very good pattern.
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I've seen photos of holes in hoods before!!!     Bucky             Big Grin
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 I admit it!  Shot my '78 Dodge Power Wagon right in the hood.  Groundhog-1  Me -zip 
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Originally posted by 300S&W 300S&W wrote:

 I admit it!  Shot my '78 Dodge Power Wagon right in the hood.  Groundhog-1  Me -zip 
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Glad the guns survived and no one was hurt.  Haven't done it myself and I have to be careful to no let it happen.
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I knew there was a reason for the bipod.
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That is why I only have one rifle cartridge. 
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Mistakes are what makes experience,hopefully not very costly ones.Most of my mistakes have been with reloading,like putting primmers in the wrong way or not using the right powder.I no longer use a progressive machine,I single load each round,takes me a little longer but it's a hell of alot safer for me!
I have loaded over 100k rds in various calibers with no error.Not bragging just being safe.
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