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tturner6
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Posted: December/10/2009 at 03:20 |
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Here's the situation:
In the spring I am looking to purchase a http://www.blaser.de/koko/main.html?mod=WB90&var=A22&lng=en Professional in .280 Rem. I am looking at the gun for some goat hunting in the mountains as it's much flatter than my Tikka .30-06. The .280 will also be a caliber that can backstop for my normal hunting of Roe, pig and red deer.
On my -06, I have http://swfa.com/Schmidt-Bender-25-10x56-Zenith-30mm-Riflescope-P1668.aspx and have no issues with it worth mentioning. The only thing I am really looking for is an upgrade in magnification. So, with that being said, suggestions?
I really require a 30mm tube, 34mm is a possibility. I require a 56mm objective also. After that, I am open to suggestion on brands, reticles and what nots. I prefer a lighted reticle, minimum of 3-10x56mm and a price under 2000USD. If I can get it, I would like a rail mount system also as the new Blaser saddle mount is what I am looking at.
All that being said, since it is meant to be a 80% daylight gun, an illuminated reticle isn't a necessity. New isn't a requirement either as I am perusing The Sample List every few days looking to snap up a steal that meets my though processes.
Here are my first few ideas:
1. Swarovski 2.5-10x56 Professional Hunter SR #6528 off Sample List
2. Zeiss 6-24x56 Victory Diavari #10914 off Sample List
Thoughts? (I know I set that 2k USD limit and clearly #4 is above that. However, I have a dealer here that will give it to me at cost + 15% so that is a BARGAIN of epic proportions.)
I have never been a fan of Leupold and have several colleagues here that hunt with them in 30mm tubes. Invariably, they say they wish they had ignored the wife's dirty looks and spent another 400USD to step up to my S&B or spent more for a Zeiss. So, if you are going to suggest one of the gold bands, please make your argument cogent and compelling beyond all belief!
Thanks in advance.
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koshkin
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Perhaps one of these:
If you can forgo the illumination, the non-illuminated DIavari is right at your price limit. ILya ILYa
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Randall45
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The Weaver Classic Extreme 2.5-10x56 illuminated dot is a very fine scope worthy of consideration.I also own the Leupold and find that it is inferior in performance to the Weaver.I have had no issues with the Weaver, it has a side focus 30mm tube design and is built strong.
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Horsemany
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I'd never put a 30mm or 34mm with a 56mm obj on a goat rifle. Too heavy and bulky for the intended use IMO.
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pyro6999
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if he's going to buy a blaser rifle he may as well buy a top shelf scope too. who cares about a few more ounces of weight. get a zeiss victory.
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If you like the S&B, I'd put a Victory Diavari on it. The glass is superb and they do have an integral rail system.
Illumination will bump your price up a bit. If you think 6-24 works for you, have at it; that is way too much magnification for hunting applications, in my opinion, but I know very good hunters who hunt with much more magnification than I like. To each, his own. Forget the IOR or Doctor on your list, once huge disadvantage (or advantage, depending on how one looks at it) of great glass is that it makes lesser glass look lots lesser. If you like S&B and are willing to spend the money, Zeiss is the way to go. All that said, I like the Swaro Z6 illumination system more, but not the glass as much (though it is quite good glass.) |
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Nough said!
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+ on the Diavari... |
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I get that way of thinking but it's not for me. I don't like the way a sporting rifle feels with a big scope. And I certainly wouldn't wanna lug around a 56mm obj hunting. IMO it adds nothing to the task at hand other than bulk. If it were me I'd run a new Swarovski 1" tube. Best of both worlds. For me a scope that is "top shelf" for hunting is not big and bulky.
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Ok, looks like Zeiss then. I hope to hunt the goats more than 1 or 2x a year but I don't have to hump the mountain every day! I wanted the flat bullet for that but also it had to be heavy enough to fall within legal energy/mm for German hunting law also.
I need a scope I can still hunt with too which is why I specified that I would prefer a 56mm in case I need a back up rifle. (Always some hunter comes visiting during a pig run that didn't know or didn't think! Having a 2nd rifle available for visitors is a definite PLUS in my book!)
As for the dream gun, yeah. If you are finally gonna put forth the money on the dream, might as well put glass on it that's worth the effort too. I paid 700$ more for the scope on my Tikka than I did my rifle and do not regret it one bit. However, the exchange rate the way it is, it'll be about even with the dream gun. I just dread spending 90$ a box of 20 for ammo on my 'non practical German caliber' hehehehehe. |
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Load your own? |
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Top shelf -- color me jealous
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