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    Posted: July/04/2012 at 20:56
I am a newbie to Binoculars, many years of photo optics however.  My low cost Nikon's broke this year. 

After many hours and looking through what was available locally, I have settled on the Steiner  Peregrine XP.  I know that the design and model has been our for a long time.       The Steiner Predator extreme was the best locally for the $500 price range and after a lot of reading, multiple phone calls I want to spend some extra bucks on the Peregrines. 

Many thanks to the posts on this forum as it as helped me.  I have read the post related to 8x vs 10x and have looked through some at the local store and I am still on the fence.  I am definitely leaning towards 8x, Depth of field, Brightness being the largest reason.     FOV being a secondary consideration. 

My subjects are normally in the 100 to 300 yd range sometimes shorter and 600 yes. Sporting events and I realize I do not need something this outstanding but I will have them for a long time.

I realize that it is a personal choice.    Any comments on 8X vs 10X would be appreciated and encouragement  on getting the Steiner Peregine XP also. 

Thank you in advance.


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I have the Peregrine XP in 8x and I love em. I also recently got a pair of the Nighthunter XP's in 8x and they are very close optically to the Peregrine XP's and quite a bit less money.
 
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Sometimes I think Roy and I must be the only two people who have it figured out that Steiner can put out some butt kickn' good glass Big Smile.  Any company that puts out a wide range of optical quality levels is subject to some ill placed scorn.  Comparisons of the low end to the high end stuff are rampant.  I really like the Peregrine XP.  It is built like the proverbial tank and is about the best in the hands feel of any binocular I have experience with.  You will get some additional ill advised opinions that seem to indicate that people tend to think that only Leica, Zeiss, Swarovski and maybe Nikon are capable of building high quality stuff.  The Peregrine XP can hold its own with just about anything.  If you have made the decision to spend the coin it is a good choice.
 
Personally I tend to like 8x better as a one binocular choice.  I use 7 or 8x stuff about 75% of the time and 10x the rest.
 
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Thank you Roy and Steve... I order the Peregrine XP 8x44, new but open box for $849, no tax no shipping.  A lot of money for not looking through a pair.   I can not wait to try them out and while I can return them, I am sure I will be happy.    

I am very familiar with top photo lenses and you normally get what you pay for in top glass.  I know that these were designed and have been out for a long time.  Your comments helped me get over the fence and I did call Steiner a couple times to help me out on differences between models.  I had decided on Steiner after looking at competitors at the $400 to $600 level.   I was going to spring for the Predator Extremes as I was able to look at these vs. some of the competitors but the local store did not have a pair in the box so I continue my research and discovered Peregrine XP's.    

I am sure I am boring all of you...     Point being Thank You!
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Not boring me at all. You're going to love em.
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Originally posted by Klamath Klamath wrote:

Sometimes I think Roy and I must be the only two people who have it figured out that Steiner can put out some butt kickn' good glass Big Smile.  Any company that puts out a wide range of optical quality levels is subject to some ill placed scorn.  Comparisons of the low end to the high end stuff are rampant.  I really like the Peregrine XP.  It is built like the proverbial tank and is about the best in the hands feel of any binocular I have experience with.  You will get some additional ill advised opinions that seem to indicate that people tend to think that only Leica, Zeiss, Swarovski and maybe Nikon are capable of building high quality stuff.  The Peregrine XP can hold its own with just about anything.  If you have made the decision to spend the coin it is a good choice.
 
Personally I tend to like 8x better as a one binocular choice.  I use 7 or 8x stuff about 75% of the time and 10x the rest.
 
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You and Roy are not the only ones that might like Steiner.  Not sure if you have even owned one
but good of you to give them a good rating.
I had the 10x50 Steiner Nighthunter XP, great binocular, very bright and a good choice in the range.
I would go for the Steiner also.
 
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Originally posted by NDhunter NDhunter wrote:

 
 
Steve:
 
You and Roy are not the only ones that might like Steiner.  Not sure if you have even owned one
but good of you to give them a good rating.
I had the 10x50 Steiner Nighthunter XP, great binocular, very bright and a good choice in the range.
I would go for the Steiner also.
 
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I had a couple of Steiner binoculars sent to me by a large dealer that had just become a Steiner dealer.  They wanted a review.  I had the regular Peregrine and the XP, both 8x.  I had them for about two months.  Frank D was also in on having a go at those two binoculars too.
 
At that point I had about decided to just pull the trigger on the Peregrine XP, but decided to wait and sent them to Frank.  I was asleep at the switch and missed a nib XP on the internet auction site that only went for $595 just after that.  I got into other binoculars and other reviews but still think I might get an XP...even the Nighthunter XP.
 
Right now my needs are another riflescope so It'll be a few months before I'm looking at buying another binocular.  Plus I have a bunch of surplus to my needs I may sell...just don't know yet Smile.
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I have had the Peregrine XP 8x44 for about a week now and I am totally impressed.  I have no point of reference for great binocs (just in store views) but I have some experience with top glass in Pro Cameras.   Without knowing anything about the technology, it is just not that easy to get depth of field and let that much light in... The depth of field, resolution, contract, light is so nice.     Now I have to go someplace so I can look at more than ducks and squirrels:)      I can not justify the extra money and I would have never gone for it with out the significant price reduction, then I got lucky on finding an open box deal.      

Yes love them...   One of my favorite post that I read  while researching was "they are only binocs dude"...   Well cheers to that, love them.   

I did think that they had dual eye adjustments (I know highly uncommon but some of the reference stated that).  Not a problem at all.   Eye relief and large dia. proved to be no problem wearing glasses but I prefer when possible not to.   Don't shy away from open box ... everything included wrapped and like new. 
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I remember thinking the same thing about having dual eye piece adjustments and I think that it was stated some where in an advertisement or owners manual.
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I am not unhappy and this is under the Discovery name vs. Peregrine.  The owner's manual for the Peregrine also states dual settings. 

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That's the model designation in Euro Land I believe and I've also seen them call it/them Nighthunter XP too. Might just be the website's not caught up from the Burris distribution transition.
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