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    Posted: May/07/2009 at 00:12
Hi Guys,
For many years now Ive had a 7mm Belgium made Browning Bar Rifle. Its a grade II I believe as it has the engraved Bear on one side and the Sheep on the other.Ive recently sent the gun back to Browning, they put all new springs in it and checked out the action I just refinished the stock and had a guy airbrush the rifle flat black..The painting job looks good but Im now thinking of having it blued instead so it looks original.Im not sure on that one yet.. Its a good shooter, Ive killed alot of deer with this rifle so I plan on keeping it and passing it on to my Grandson. This is one of the rifles Ive been talking about putting a new scope on as well.My question is is how do I find out what year it was made? I bought it used in the mid- '80s.


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Browning BAR Rifle History

The production of the BAR high power rifle began in 1967 and lasted through 1992. The BAR Mark II series was introduced in 1993 and is still in production.
Date Historic Information Serial Number Info
1967-75 In 1969 Browning started using two digits for the date of manufacture:
M=BAR High Power Rifle
This was then followed by the serial number beginning with 1000.
Example: 69M1000 = A 1969 BAR High Power rifle with a serial number of 1000.
M=BAR High Power Rifle
1976-1992 In 1975 Browning standardized its serial number identification which it followed until 1998.
 
1. BAR Type 137=BAR High Power Rifle
2. Date of Manufacture
is a two digit code
Z=1
Y=2
X=3
W=4
V=5
T=6
R=7
P=8
N=9
M=0
3. Serial Number
beginning with 01001
at the start of each year.
 


 

Serial
Number Example:

137RT01001

This would be a BAR High Power Rifle, manufactured in 1976 with the serial number 01001.

1993-1997 In 1993 Browning introduced the BAR Mark II series.
 
1. BAR Mark II Type 107=BAR Mark II Safari
1D7=BAR Mark II Lightweight
2. Date of Manufacture
is a two digit code
Z=1
Y=2
X=3
W=4
V=5
T=6
R=7
P=8
N=9
M=0
3. Serial Number
beginning with 01001
at the start of each year.
 


 

Serial
Number Example:

107NX01001

This would be a BAR Mark II Safari, manufactured in 1993 with the serial number 01001.

1998 In 1998 Browning redid the standardization of its serial number identifications to work with its new data base program, Oracle.
 
1. BAR Mark II Type 311=BAR Mark II
2. Date of Manufacture
is a two digit code
Z=1
Y=2
X=3
W=4
V=5
T=6
R=7
P=8
N=9
M=0
3. Serial Number
beginning with 01001
at the start of each year.
 


 

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  If it's worth any amount of money DON"T reblue it.
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Wow! This makes it really easy, Thanks Martin!



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tip69 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/07/2009 at 21:35
didn't he say he already painted/air brushed it flat black?   Not in original condition any longer.   Why didn't you have Browning/FN do that when they had it?
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Unless you used a product meant for guns such as Duracoat or the like the paint will scratch and wear off sooner than you think have it re blued or coated with the good stuff, you have already deminished any collector value so go ahead and make it nice!
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I do be believe my local gun painter did use a professional duracoat type paint..I do not remember exaactly what its called ..The painter (airbrush) sells and paints alot of Ar-15 stuff. He told me the paint would last longer than blueing and hold up better than a blued gun. I was NOT THINKING when I had him do it obviously, about re-sale value etc...today I found out my Bar Rifle was built in 1970, I also found out that it can be re-blued, exactly as it was when new..This is GOOD NEWS! The BAD NEWS is the trigger guard and the bottom of the Magazine holder are both aluminum, the paint is coming of very slightly on the aluminum. Stuff like this drives me nuts! I wanted it perfect, I wanted to continue to take good care of it. The whole thing is refinished... Martin 3175 sent me to some folks who sound very good at what they do! But even if I have it reblued, they cannot anodize the aluminum peices. Surely there are people who can do this, right?
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Aluminum can be anodized, usually it is. There is also a product made bt Birchwood Casey called "Aluminum Black" You can find this reasonably easily at several gun shops.
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I wished I would have just had Browning blue the damn thing while they had it. I think I will ask them (Browning) if they can re-do the whole thing aluminum parts and all, surely they will anodize what needs to be . Im going to have someone check out the barrel before I do anything more to it though.

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any updates?
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I picked up a new 300 mag Bar Safari Rifle in a local gun shop the other day. Man is it light in weight compared to the 1970 version I have. I wish mine were as light as that! Oh well!

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what did that set up back?  what kind of shape is it in?  did it have any optics?  basicly, what's the poop with it?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Kickboxer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/13/2009 at 21:47
Hmmm, I'll take the old one off your hands if you think it is too heavy


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JF4545 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/19/2009 at 11:00
I did not make that last statement correct.. I did not BUY the new 300 Mag Safari Bar Rifle.. It was brand new at Sportsmans Warehouse, I was just looking at it and noticed it is alot lighter than my old 7mm Bar.

I really do not remember the cost of the new bar, around 1,100.00 or something like that.
Just for fun I will take a pic of my old Bar and post it on the forum so you can see it Tip69..

Thanks!

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Im sorry for the confusion!
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  Thunbs Up  NO problem,JF.  We're ALWAYS in a state of confusion here.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mlv2k5 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June/02/2009 at 20:21
I looked at a early 70's BAR the other day in a local gun shop, I would have bought it if I wasn't broke from buying other guns Big Smile. Its one of those guns I'm ashamed to say I don't have in my collection.
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Michael,

What was it that you liked about it? Just curious.

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