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HUNTERS:  Please bear with me on the details here.  Thanks.

 

WHAT'S ON IT NOW:

I've been concerned about shooting this cartridge/rifle ( 700 / .375 Remington ULTRA MAG ) without adequate eye relief from the scopes available.

The scope I have on it now, before I fire it, is one of my Leupold Vari-X III 4.5-14x40's in gloss black in Weaver Grand Slam medium ( QD type, that I can't seem to find any more of  ) all on a Mounting Solutions Plus Tactical 'B' base that I had to grind the front down on to get objective bell clearance. 

Add to that the Stoney Point target turrets and I've got a wicked looking and functional setup, but it might be a bit BIG for the amount of recoil generated by the .375 ULTRA.

I spent a LOT of time looking at scopes and went with this setup because I had it on hand.

 

THE ORIGINAL IDEA:

I'd reasoned that the Leupold M8 6x42 would be a good choice with its 4.5" of eye relief, and to be honest, I wanted to go with a 'Tactical Hunter' look, so I was also looking at the version with the AO, except the reticles available are only for target shooting...which led me to think I could send the regular version in and have the target turrets added, avoid the AO altogether, and get pretty much what I wanted for this rifle.

 

WHAT I SAW TODAY:

Then, I ran across the Weaver LONG EYE RELIEF scope while following a link Chris had for the Weaver 3-9 Tactical scope.  I want at least 10 power if I go for a variable, but none of the scopes except that 6X had much more than 3" of eye relief!

This 6X long eye relief scope might be just the ticket IF it is tough enough, and it is WAY LE$$ money than some of the alternatives.

I NEED A PICTURE of the 6X to see what she looks like, hoping it has at least the 1/2 target turrets on it for the looks I want.

 

Eye Relief (in): 4.625

http://www.riflescopes.com/products/849986/new_weaver_6x38_c lassic_k6_series_rifle_scope.htm

 

THE NIKON CONNECTION:

My avatar reflects my 'loyalty' to NIKON products, as I have bought several of their products for my optical needs and am pleased with them.  I'd like to get a NIKON scope for the .375, BUT ---

I started to consider using some of the NIKON scopes, but ran across the eye relief problem again, with a limit of 3.6" in the Monarch 3.3-10x44, which I really like and might still get for my 7mm; and the NEW Buckmasters 4.5-14x40 Side Focus model, with about the same eye relief and application except I THINK it's a 2-pc. tube, which I don't care for.

The NIKON Gold 2.5-10x50 SF would be too expensive and probably too unwieldy with the 30mm tube, so I haven't really considered using it.  Besides, from what I understand, the 30mm tube is really only good for more adjustment as it doesn't make anything 'brighter'.

 

Is my Leupold 4.5-14x40 going to withstand the .375 ULTRA?

Should I go for the Leupold 6x42 and have the factory target turrets installed?

Am I making too big of a deal on the eye relief; side focus; turrets?  Just get the NIKON and be happy?

Arrrrgh!

 

Thank you for grinding through all of that!

 

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Recoil will not be a problem for the Leupold. Eye relief for either your Nikon and or Leupold should not be issue either. If your comfortable with Nikon go for it! If you feel the Leupold is a better match to your needs / wants you should be happy its performance..

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I was at Sam's Gun Shop for some pistol shooting today and talked with the in-shop Gunsmith:

 Rick Freudenberg @ www.freudscustomrifles.com .

WE convinced ME  that the 4.5 Leupold would be fine on the gun, but that installing the 8-40 screws for the rifle action and base would be a good idea at $80.00 + tax...

 

I apologize for the long and detailed post, but most of you guys know how agonizing it can be deciding where the hard earned money should go, and utilizing what you've got vs. what you want and how to place it.

 

This all puts me in a good spot, actually.

I can now rotate my gloss scope back to my BAR / 7mm; put the matte finish on the .375 ULTRA; and get a NIKON Monarch 3.3-10x44 AO or Buckmasters Side Focus 4.5-14x40 for the 700 / 7mm.

Looks like I'll get my eye relief for the .375 and a NIKON to use on the 7mm, which I'd use more often anyway.

 

The 6x42, no matter which one I get and how Leupold refigures it, just leaves me with the feeling that I'd have no versatility at all, especially at the low-end, close-range possibilities.

 

I would still like to see a picture of that WEAVER Long Eye Relief scope, though.

And get a definitive answer to the Buckmasters 2-pc. construction and if it's a concern or not.

I did read that the rounded front of the Buckmasters doesn't meet flush with the sunshade...and that would look 'funky' to me.  Lord knows, LOOKS do play an important role in 'whipping out your gun' in front of other shooters!

 

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 I ended up ordering a NIKON Monarch 3.3-10x44 Mil-Dot to use between the 7mm Rem.Mag. & .375 Ultra.

 

I also ordered the NIKON Monarch Laser800 / black, which is a 6 power.

 

This scope will give me the ability to match the magnification of both the Laser800 6x28 and my ATB 10x40 binoculars.

It also gives me a mid-range NIKON scope, right between my 1.5-4.5x20 TurkeyPro and 6.5-20x44 Nikoplex.

The spotting scope is the earlier version 16-47x60 Spotter XL kit.

With my little NIKON Coolpix digital and N65 SLR, I have rounded out my optical needs for quite a while.

Hell, I've even got a couple of NIKON hats...

 

Now I'm HAPPY!

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