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  Hi everybody, thinking about a 6X42 scope. I'm open to sugestions on brand. I have a leupold and am wondering if IOR, S&B or one of the other brands are worth the extra money. I am aware "worth" is a subjective term but what do y'all think? Or should I wait for the SS 6X? I'm not in a big hurry, hunting season is a ways off.
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WHAT? a SS 6X - how did I miss this??? I need more info please.
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I read it here someplace, although if I found it again I wouldn't have any idea how to link it. I think it was a couple months back.
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I have been asking for a 6x SS for several years and Chris finally let the cat out of the bag and tells me that there will be one available this summer.  It will probably not come as much of a suprise to the guys who know me that I think highly of the fixed 6x scopes as they tend to be quite reliable and 42mm divided by 6 power gives a 7mm exit eye pupil so they are as bright as it gets.  For a hunting scope the Leupold 6x42 FX3 with long range duplex is a wonderful choice because it gives hold over marks for known distances. If you sighted the crosshairs on at say 200 you might be a couple inches high at 100 but useable and the two dots below should represent 300 and 400 and where the post goes from thin to thick below should be abut 500 yds.  If you hand hold the rifle without a rest 6x is about as much power as you can use and anything with higher power really needs a solid rest.  I think the answer to do you put the 6x Super Sniper on the rifle or do you go with the Leupold FX3 depends  on if you are willing to dial in correction or if you wish to rangefind using the mildots and a mildotmaster.
http://www.kentonindustries.com/pics/picbytype/ one can order custom engraved Kenton knobs for the caliber and bullet of choice.
The 6x SS is the same glass style and price range as the older models of 10, 16, & 20.
And no I have not seen one but I have a rifle waiting for it  Tikka 300 WSM
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I would wait for the SS 6X being your not in a hurry.
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How does the glass of fixed SS's compare to the SS3-9 I have one of those and really like it but I have not looked through any of the other SS's?
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The HD and the 3-9 are close but there is night and day difference between those and the older styles you do pay twice as much but you get three times as much.  If you could live with a fixed power in a ten the  10X HD it is absolutely fantastic. I have one and I also have two of the 3-9 and one of the 10x side focus models and have had several other models.  The HD is so good you are looking for a european lable on it.    The older style scopes are quite workable because to shoot something at distance you dont have to have the worlds best glass but you must have repeatable mechanical adjustments that do the same thing every time.   The real beauty of the 3-9 is that the front focal plane allows you to use the mildots for hold over at known distances  at any power.  Just run a balistics program and get your trajectory compensation in  mil and you can dial down to 6x and have a balistic compensating reticle - you just need to determine what distance the dots represent.
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The S&B 6x would be the one I'd like to try.
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I have 3 Nikon Monarch 6 x 42's.  I am a fan of fixed scopes.  If you wanted a 6 right now if you could find one of the UCC Nikons I recommend them for a budget minded purchase.
 
I just made an offer on a variable Leupold...Then I read this SS 6x42 rumor stuff.  I know deep down I ought to buy one of those straight 10 HD's but I worry that 10X would be more than I really want for hunting so I haven't.  A 6 Fixed HD...Hell Yeah!
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I hunt,shoot,golf and fish a lot. If not doing those I read about hunting,shooting,golf,and fishing a lot. Oh, and I work some too if it does not interfere with my hunting,shooting,golf and fishing. haha! Saying this to qualify this statement, for me the perfect scope that would handle 99% of what I do would be a SS 6X HD and I would be happy forever. From what I've "read" though the SS 6X will not be HD so the search goes on. It seems to me in my simple mind that it could be built both ways by just changing the glass, non HD for the cost conscious, HD for us looking for something more. Oh for a perfect world!
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Originally posted by troweler troweler wrote:

From what I've "read" though the SS 6X will not be HD so the search goes on.


Why is that?
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SS 6x42 scope will make a very compelling combination of optical and mechanical quality for the money when it arrives.

With the currently available scopes there are several very good choices, depending on what you are looking for.

Leupold FX-3 6x42 has the most eyereleif, which is helpful on a kicker.

S&B 6x42 is expensive, but optically flawless.  Eye relief is a bit on the short side, but field of view is quite wide.  If you can afford it, the optical quality will impress you.

IOR Hunting 6x42 is very good optically at half the price of S&B.  I have one with #4 reticle and it is a very nice low light scope.  It has better the optics that all the other 6x42 scopes currently available aside from S&B.

Sightron makes a couple 6x42 scopes: S2 and S2 Big Sky.  
S2BS is aimed straight at the FX-3 and offers a touch less eyerelief and slightly better resolution, although the two scopes are prety close. Regular S2 is a lot cheaper and is very good bang for the buck.

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I have a Burris Fulfield II 6x42 that I got as a refurb for $149 a while back.
 
It's on a 6.5lb-ish Weatherby Mark V in .243 Win. and I am VERY satisfied with it. Big Smile
 
The ocular measures 1.55 inches in diameter which means it works with Leupold Super-Low rings and so I get a very tight cheek weld. I cannot, however, run Butler Creek flip ups on the rear cuz the bolt clips them. I am partial enough to these flip-ups that I may machine a little off of the bolt.
 
Hope this helps...
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If you aren't hell bent on 42mm you may want to look at the 38mm Weaver K6 at only $139.95 (SWFA pricing). It's been around a long time and if you want something special they are supposed to have some kind of steel tube "anniversary" or "commemorative" version around.
 
You know, other than durability and less glass to block light the great thing about fixed power is NOT laying out a lot of hard earned dough for one...
 
Just my 2 cents.
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