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    Posted: February/03/2009 at 21:08
I need to replace the scope on my 30.06 in which I have always had a 3x9x40 and very rarely change it from about 6x thinking of going to a fixed 6x ..use is deer and elk both open and slightly dense timber. really like the Leupold fx111 any cons to this idea?
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My opinion is if you take any shots at running game, 6x makes it tough 100 yds. in, in wooded areas.  Some hunters aren't comfortable taking shots on the run though.  I'm not a long range shooter by any means, more of a up close type of hunter due to the areas where I hunt.   300 yd. is a long shot for me.
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote tahqua Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February/03/2009 at 21:47
I have a 6x42 that is an FXII Leupold and it is one of my favorite scopes. It is very bright and forgiving.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Kickboxer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February/03/2009 at 21:48
FOV at shorter ranges could present a problem.  With that scope at 25yds, I believe your FOV will be slightly under 6ft.  In heavy brush with a walking target, not optimum, but certainly doable.  I got rid of a 6x Swarovski on my .458 Lott due to FOV.  4x is working well.  
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Yes that is all good the majority of my hunting will be open country but it will also include the trees not much brush hunting I once had a 4x and always wished it were 6x. if I hunt in dense forest I will take a back up gun which I always do.I like the simplicity and the elegant look of the scope in mention. and they are on sale right now. 
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I say give it a try and let us know what you think.  Personally, I rarely take my scope off 4x to shoot.  But I understand the desire to try a fixed power.
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Should be AOK then.  
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Fixed power scopes have a lot of advantages over variable power scopes.
 
I think 6x is an excellent choice.  
 
 
 
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Big Squeeze Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February/04/2009 at 01:01
Originally posted by rifle looney rifle looney wrote:

I need to replace the scope on my 30.06 in which I have always had a 3x9x40 and very rarely change it from about 6x thinking of going to a fixed 6x ..use is deer and elk both open and slightly dense timber. really like the Leupold fx111 any cons to this idea?
........A straight 6x on a 30-06?......Do-able but not reco`d...No No.....You`re limiting any shorter range versatility and FOV at the closer ranges should you find yourself in brush or in the timbers.
 
I`d go with either the 2-8x32 Monarch, the 1.75-6x32 VX3 or the 2.5-8x36 VX3 instead.
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I have a older K6 on my old Winchester M70 30-06.  I like six power and the scope fits the rifle.  Perfect for open country....not horribly bad in the woods...but it's not versatile as a 4X....so if you go into the deep woods---use another rifle!!   Bandito 
 
 
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Look for one of the Kahles 6x, they have the field of view of a 4x Leupold.  IOR 's 6x is twice the price of the Leupold, but offers a better field of view.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dale Clifford Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February/04/2009 at 08:22
Shot my first moose with a 6x leo on a 06 Colt Sauer (25 years ago).  The current fxlll leo would be by first choice.
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I have killed more than one running deer at 25 yards or so with 6x scopes, including the 6x42 Leupold. The FOV at 25 is about the length of the average deer, and all you need to aim at is one part of the deer. I haven't found the FOV of various 6x's differs enough to worry about, if you can raise a rifle and have it already pointed in the direction you want to shoot--which is the big trick in shooting fast and close anyway.

I generally prefer a good 6x for all-around hunting, as I have found it good both up close and out to 500 yards, with no fiddling around with magnification. Partly I like a fixed 6x because I use the reticle for range estimation quite frequently, and there is no extra math to do, as is necessary when using a typical 2nd-plane reticle variable. Personally, I think a good 6x like the FX-III is just about ideal for an all-around scope on a .30-06.
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Ive come so close to buying something it hurts, actually I have called and talked to Brady about 4 times now. I need at least one scope but I was hoping for the varmit reticle with target knobs if I go past the cost of the 6x.  I also cant understand why Leupold will make illuminated B&C but not illuminated varmit reticle  --  DUH The B&C looks too busy to me where the lines are finer on the varmit and have more wind drift info.  The scope I want doesnt exist.  4.5-14x40  (or 50) 30mm tube illuminated varmit reticle with 1/4 moa target knobs (or M1).  

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Originally posted by shooterpunk shooterpunk wrote:

go with the leupold
 
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What rifle is it going on?  I ask because if it's a Savage long action you want to make sure it has long enough tube without using and extended base.  My Stevens 200 long action will just barely mount a K4 using Burris tactical 2-pice bases.  The front ring hangs over the opening in the receiver buy a little and it looks wrong but I'm stuck with it but I wished I'd thought about that before buying the scope.  It's not an expensive scope but it works great for my type of hunting.
 
Anyway, 4x is pretty decent all-round magnification.  I'm very comfortable taking shots as far as 300 yards with it but that's my longest shot.
 
Here's the FXII 4x33,  FOV is 24'
 
FXII 6x36, FOV is 17.7'
 
FXIII 6x42, FOV is 17.3'
 
Conquest 4x32, FOV is 26.1' and the price is reasonable,
 
I'm content with the K4 but it's actual 3.75x.  That Conquest is true 4x with wider fov and better glass which I think would be true happiness and if they had the same in 5x it would be heaven!
 
Anyway, for open country I think the 6x is the perfect choice.  I hunt mostly open but I have to pass thry bush to get there so I feel more comforatble with the 4x. 
 
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It would be going on SAKO AV long action ....nice rifle so it needs a nice scope. I don't think I would try another 4x pretty set on the 6x. you can see the gun on the members test review thread. titled ZEISS. there it is wearing a Zeiss. 

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I got to thinking the other night, that this would make for an interesting comparison...The Leupold vs Metopa vs IOR.
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