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in my latest issue of rifleshooter, i was pleasantly surprised to see that craig boddington took some time to praise the 6.5mm family, one that hasnt ever done real well in the usa, like craig, i cannot understand why, the s.d and b.c of .264 bullets alone is eye catching, light recoil big performance what more could you want? 6.5x55 swede .260 and .264 have done ok, the 6.5x.284 is starting to become popular with the target crowd and the new 6.5 creedmoor is making its presence know with the black rifle fellars, right now remington and ruger are the only big boys that make rifles in the .264 win, and thats a shame, even more so the 6.5 rem mag one of the orginal short mags never got a fair shake, since remington wasnt smart enough at the time to put it in a rifle with a 22-24" barrel, heck my 6.5 rem will out preform my .264 with 120gr 130gr  and for a certain amount of distance 140gr bullet as well. they both are like a .270 wsm as far as a fair comparison, more oomph than the .270 win though.
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If I ever buy an AR-10 style rifle it will be in .260 Rem.  I totally agree with you, I think it is the perfect all round caliber for medium and small game.  
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the one thing he mentioned and i may agree with, the .260 closely replicates the 7-08's performance, which doenst help it sell, and he also said its not as accurate, which i dont know if i quite agree with
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I love the 6.5mm have two and either is the perfect caliber up to elk. My old favorite is a Sako Finnbear in 6.5X55 when I got it 20 years ago I was always aksed what caliber? 6.5X55.. deer in the headlight look.. They looked a lot closer after they saw the groups it would shoot. Second one is a Steyr ProHunter in 6.5X57 found this one NIB for $525 could not pass it up. Hard to say which one shoots better, the Sako or the Steyr. The SD and BC on the 6.5's has long been misunderstood. They just plain work on critters without using alot of powder or putting up with recoil.
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I have had a 6.5 X 55 Swede mauser for years. Had it shortened by a gunsmith buddy of mine and put a forward eye relief scope on it. Great coyote gun always loved the gun. Rebarreled my FN Mauser in 3006 with a 6.5 06 Ackley Improved. Really like this caliber, super accurate, fire forming cases is always a pain but wow great performance,even from fire-formers. My stainless Hart barrel seems to like everything from 100 to 140 grain so far. Anyway I am a big fan of 6.5, if money was no object I would buy a 6.5 Grendel black rifle seems to have great performance from what I have read. Grendel supposedly outperforms 308 heavy at 1000yds.
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i to am intrested in the grendel but also the  creedmoor, i want to know how they stack up against the 6.5x.284 in black rifles
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i dont know what to think about this, its straight from his site, it doesnt say either way if he actually was promoted.
 
 
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I have always liked a 6.5.  I am considering building a 6.5mm Rem Mag or a 6.5-06 the next time I have the funds to make a new aquisition.  That's my problem, I can ALWAYS justify the need for a new rifle - especially in a nontypical cartridge.
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the 6.5 rem can be loaded to out run the .264 win mag if you used 130gr or lighter bullets, shorter action with a belt is unique, buying brass for it can suck a little, im glad to see that nosler is making brass for it now, most of the remington brass i have bought has sucked!
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I have a 6.5 06 Ackley Improved and love it. Good performance even when fire forming brass. Reloading dies gonna set you back $100 or so which kinda sucks but wow.....great rifle.
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most of the AI chamberings are pretty cool in my book, even the anemic .257roberts can become a 25-06 with AI stamped on the barrel, well almost a 25-06
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Perhaps he was awaiting a billet; he may have been getting O-7 money and/or gotten the promotion at retirement.
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Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

the 6.5 rem can be loaded to out run the .264 win mag if you used 130gr or lighter bullets, shorter action with a belt is unique, buying brass for it can suck a little, im glad to see that nosler is making brass for it now, most of the remington brass i have bought has sucked!
 
I didn't know Nosler was making brass for it now!  It is not listed on their website http://www.nosler.com/?p=11&b=5&s=14
 
It is a crapshoot with Nosler brass right now on whether you are going to get their A game or a box that really sucks.  Here is a thread where I post as woods http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f28/nosler-300-win-mag-brass-very-unimpressed-33899/  To make a long story short I got a box of 300 win mag brass and the neck thickness was way off and some had defective heads
 
so I sent it back to Nosler.  They sent me a replacement box and the neck thickness was worse.  It varied from .009" to .017"!
 
Personally, I like the Remington brass because it usually has thick neck brass which I can outside turn for a perfectly consistant neck thickness.  WW brass can get too thin and the necks will split.
 
As far as the 6.5's go I am really happy with my 6.5 rem mag that I had rebarreled from a 300 win mag.  Lots of room to seat the bullets long
 
and will push a 140 gr bullet all day long at 3000+ fps.  The Douglas barrel shoots pretty good too (damn those fliers)
 
I do wish that there were more options in the 140 gr bullets though.


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Anyone have any ideas about rebarreling a WSM to 6.5 and necking some down? That should be an excellent caliber. Push 140's to about 3200, and carry a lot of energy.
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Hey trigger
 
Here are the dimensions of a 270 WSM and a 6.5 rem mag
 
 
there is not a lot of difference and I read somewhere that the 6.5 rem mag actually has a little more case capacity.  So I do not think that the 6.5WSM would achieve more velocity than the 6.5 rem mag with equal pressures.  That being said I have pushed 140's to over 3100 fps in the 6.5 rem mag but achieved better accuracy at around 3000 fps.
 
And if you rechambered or rebarreled an existing short action WSM then the bullet would intrude on powder space.
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Wow, I didn't think the rem. case was that fat! Didn't look that big in the store. I'll have to hold a WSM case up next to it next time.
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6.5rem was so screwed over by remington when it came out its not even funny had they put it in a 24" or 26" tube it may have spelled the end for the .264win, which right now im finding is very finicky compared to my 6.5rem.
nosler makes loaded 6.5rem ammo not bulk brass im sorry i didnt elaborate myself there. they are making bilk .264 brass now though.
 
as far as a 6.5wsm they thought about it and some guys had custom ones made, but if you wanna really have a 6.5 with some snort wildcat a .378wby case so you would have a 6.5x.378 that would haul ass!
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im shooting 60.5gr of r-19 with a 120gr tsx out of my 673. i wish i had that much room to seat my bullets out that far! im almost maxed out with magazine length right now just barely enough for the tip to fit inside but what you have there is awesome!
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