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    Posted: December/24/2008 at 22:01
Gentlemen.
 
I have about 500$ to spend on a scope. The salesmen I´ve spoken to all give praise and haleluja to the scope they sell - but Im looking for honest advice from working people that have experience in the field. I hope you can help. I really like the Leupold´s but open to anything.
 
Here is what I want from a scope:
 
a) good on 200-600 yards.
b) perform well in low light.
c) rugged, waterproof.
d) simple and quick to use.
e) fit nicely on my Sako .243
 
What scope will do the job?
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote lucytuma Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December/24/2008 at 22:04
Zeiss 3-9x40, best glass under $500.00
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Sightron SII Big Sky 3-9x42 is an excellent scope and better than the Leupold VXIII at around $300.00 USD.Lifetime replacement warranty.I own many Leupold scopes and find the Sightron a better value.The Leupold scopes have been replaced with the Sightron SII Big Sky scopes.   
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The Zeiss 3-9x40 looks good. Never seen one before though. Gona Google it and try to read some reviews of its performance.
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+1 on the Zeiss
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There is a bunch of scopes that performs similarly well and would serve your needs:

Zeiss Conquest 3-9x40
Sightron S2 Big Sky 3-9x42 or 3.5-10x42 or 3-12x42
Bushnell Elite 4200 2.5-10x40
Vortex Viper 3-9x40 or 4-12x40

If you planning to shoot a bit further out, consider getting a scope with some sort of a holdover reticle.  Both SIghtron and Vortex offer one.  I have Vortex Viper 4-12x40 with the BDC reticle and I am very happy with it.

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Thanks guys
The Zeiss 3-9x40 and Leupold VX-iii have my attention. They are close to 500 and the latter one a bit over the budget limit but they are sweet choices.
 
One question given the criteria above (low light, distance ca 300 yards etc): if I´d buy a older/cheaper scope instead, say the Leupold VX-ii for about 250-300$, how would I see and feel the difference when Im out hunting ??
 
I just need to justify for myself why to spend more.
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Well if you're buying Leupold you are always going to PAY MORE.  If you want to buy a Leupold , but you want the low light performance of the Zeiss Conquest, and the Bushnell 4200 and the Sightron Big Sky, then you MUST stay with the VX-III line, at the minimum. The VX-II is not in the same galaxy as those other ones we mentioned.  You would not get the low light performance. 
 
Sightron offers an amazing selection of scopes.  With a $500 budget you could be right smack in the middle of all of those Big Sky models....I would check them out!  
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The 4200 and Conquest mentioned will serve you very well for low light hunting. The Conquest has an edge there, also.
The VX-II is not very good in low light. Stick with the VX-III if you want a Leo with your stated budget.
I have no opinion on the Sightron or Vortex, but based on what I've been seeing here for some time, I would consider a Sightron.
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This ought to do it. What kind of load you shooting? 
 
 
Or more conventional. These will beat any VX III out there.
 


Edited by trigger29 - December/25/2008 at 13:20

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If you want to save a little money and give nothing up in performance, you can also look at the bushnell 4200 3-9x40 (< $300.00) or the Nikon primos 3-9x40 BDC (< $200.00).  Both are fantastic scopes, almost rivaling the Zeiss conquest.  Both can be found at www.riflescopes.com

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Well guys, I bought the Zeiss. Just want to thank you for your inputs and time. Looking fwd to mount it on my Sako.
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do us a favor and post a pic when you get it set-up!
take em!
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Roger that. Will do when its on the Sako.
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Heres a picture as promished. Just put the Zeiss on my Sako .243. I bought the Z-plex model. Its simple and works. Looks like a fantastic combo. Cant wait to test it next weekend.

 
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I was making a list of scopes to reccomend and noticed right then Koshkin had made the exact same list except I was going to add the Nikon 2.5-10. Thanks Koshkin... LOL Early bird gets the worm.
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Good pic!  I woulda went that route also.  Z-plex is hard to beat for standard reticles IMO.



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That made a sweet looking rig! Let us know how you like it.

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I think you picked a fine scope for a fine looking rig.  Thanks for the pic
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it is VERY hard to beat a combo of Sako & Zeiss - Congrats! I am sure you will be happy with the results...post them for us will ya!Yippee

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Nice.
Is this 3-9x40 Zeiss? What rings/bases did you use?
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Zeiss is nice!
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It has Sako Optiloc rings and bases. It had the best craftmanship that I could find.
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