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Looking to be able to use mil dots or BDC for holding over from standing and other field positions, rather than just prone -
Realizing that mils that only are correct at highest magnification won't cut it as the high magnification wobble will drive me crazy.
 
What would you recommend that works well for holding over at 3-4x maybe 6x at the max?
 
Love the 3.5x ACOG but pricey...
 
Anyone have any personal experience with the 1-4 mildot Barska?
 
 
Illuminated would be nice but not essential.
 
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Originally posted by che che wrote:

Looking to be able to use mil dots or BDC for holding over from standing and other field positions, rather than just prone -
Realizing that mils that only are correct at highest magnification won't cut it as the high magnification wobble will drive me crazy.
 
What would you recommend that works well for holding over at 3-4x maybe 6x at the max?
 
Love the 3.5x ACOG but pricey...
 
Anyone have any personal experience with the 1-4 mildot Barska?
 
 
Illuminated would be nice but not essential.
 
 
Have you checked the samplelist?
They have some from time to time.
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Thought about having the Leupold custom shop do a reticule change on one of their 4x?
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Barska is not all that hot.

Pentax has holdover reticles in their Gameseeker scopes including 4x and 1.75-5x20.  I'll take those over Barska any day.

ILya
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Ilya,
 
Noticed that you have the 1.75-5x20.
Can I ask how you decided on that relative to the
 
The 1.75-5x20 is 11.8 oz, 10 inches long, with exit pupil 9.5-4
the 1.5-6x40 is 13.5 oz, 11.9 inches long, with exit pupil 22-6.7
 
Would the extra bulk be justified by the exit pupil in low light?
 
May I ask what caliber you have it mounted on and how the hold over lines are working out for you? 
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Originally posted by che che wrote:

Ilya,
 
Noticed that you have the 1.75-5x20.
Can I ask how you decided on that relative to the
 
The 1.75-5x20 is 11.8 oz, 10 inches long, with exit pupil 9.5-4
the 1.5-6x40 is 13.5 oz, 11.9 inches long, with exit pupil 22-6.7
 
Would the extra bulk be justified by the exit pupil in low light?
 
May I ask what caliber you have it mounted on and how the hold over lines are working out for you? 

I do not own the 1.75-5x20, but I tested a couple of Gameseeker scopes when they just came out, including that one.

It seemed an all right scope for the money and it held up fine in my testing.  I do not recal offhand what I tried it on, but it was either 8mm Mauser or 7.62x54R.

As far as holdover lines go, I recall it matched the cartridge well enough, but of course all you have to do is spend a little time on the range figuring out where exactly the aiming points are.

As a general consideration, I do not like holdover reticles in the second focal plane.  I think it is a solution to a non-existant problem.

Between 1.75-5x20 and 1.5-6x40, the larger scope will certainly perform better in low light and be a bit more versatile overall.  Keep in mind though that the 1.75-5x20 will have a bit more field of view across the board.

ILya
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Here is an old thread where I looked at the Gameseeker for the first time:

I did a more thorough evaluation of it at some late rpoint, but I can't find that one for some reason.

ILya
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