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    Posted: June/02/2011 at 20:40
Just curious as to what would be a good bullet for short barreled revolver on black bear.  Heavy soft point or heavy hard cast?  Also would this bullet choice change if bow hunting black bear and using the pistol in case of emergency.  
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote billyburl2 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June/02/2011 at 21:42
My decision is biased on where you are hunting... If in AZ, any well constructed bullet in the 200+gr. range, in that chambering will do. If you are headed back to Alaska, I will differ to someone with more knowledge.































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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote anomad Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June/02/2011 at 21:57
I have some experience loading .44 magnum, having lived in Alaska for a number of years. For large animal protection you want a jacketed soft point bullet and a heavy dose of slow burning powder. Short or long barrel, that will give you the highest velocity. Unfortunately, it will also give a deafening muzzle blast. A heavy cast bullet will be effective too, but probably have leading issues at true magnum velocities. According to the Speer manual the JSP is designed for penetration and controlled expansion at maximum velocities, without the nag of barrel leading.

Personally, I think magnum caliber handguns should have a 6 inch barrel, minimum. But, hypocritically, I do have a 4 inch that is a little more handy to carry on the belt, especially while seated. For the lower 48 I am perfectly happy with a 10mm Glock.

I use Speer 240 grain JSP bullets over a heavy charge of H110 worked up for my guns.


I'd also like to give their DeepCurl bullets a try when my stockpile runs out.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote tahqua Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June/03/2011 at 10:21
I load both the 240 and 300 gr Sierra bullets for my .44. Mine is 7 1/2" and the .300 soft point out penetrates the lighter hollow point. I haven't used them on bear yet. But my walk around stump shooting and deer have given the nod to the 300 gr.
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Quite frankly any of the hollowpoints or soft points over a heavy charge of powder should be fine.  Heavy bullets would be preferable either 300 gr or 240 gr.  If you dont load look at the ones made by Bullalo Bore.  Remember though that any handgun bullet is no match for a heavy rifle caliber energy wise or for a 12 ga slug.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ckk1106 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June/03/2011 at 18:23
I've got both 240 grain Speer Deep Curl soft points and 300 grain Cast Performance WFNGC bullets loaded that shoot well with lots of Win 296.  I've heard good things about the hard cast bullets penetrating well, but maybe I wouldn't have a problem with the soft points penetrating well and also expanding.  Also, if it were brown bear instead of black bear would the choice be different, or would the same bullet apply?
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If Dale does not see this, shoot him a PM Coby.  I dare bet he has hunted bear with a pistol before.  
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote anomad Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June/03/2011 at 19:06
That 240 grain deep curl would suit me just fine.

I was always more paranoid about a moose trampling my tent than a bear attack when I camped in Alaska. When I would go bird hunting I would keep a few slugs in my pocket in case of trouble.
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I would probably stay with the jacketed bullet loaded hot as you can generally load them much hotter than a lead bullet unless it has a gas check copper base and I dont fool with that.  The bottom line is that if you are really concerned about bears keep your rifle handy nothing smaller than 30-06 and preferably a 338 Win Mag or 375 H&H.   Just go down the energy column on pistol cartridges and on rifle cartridges and you will have your answer take  a rifle.

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270g Speer Gold Dot would be a good choice.  I would think that any of the 300g would be a good choice also.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jjrgr21 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June/16/2011 at 11:06
270gr buffalo bore, dropped a 430# hog, like a bag of crap. those are loaded with speer. i'd say it would do the job on a BB
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote martin3175 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June/16/2011 at 14:07
I am also a fan of the 270 gr buffalo Bore load .. It hits about as hard as you can crank up a 44mag
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ckk1106 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June/16/2011 at 15:50
Originally posted by martin3175 martin3175 wrote:

I am also a fan of the 270 gr buffalo Bore load .. It hits about as hard as you can crank up a 44mag

What bullet is used in that buffalo bore load?  Someone mentioned Speer.  If that's the case I imagine it would be the deep curl.  I don't know if that is different than the gold dot bullet or not. 
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Jacketed hollow points
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its a JSP in the 270 BB
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