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What 416 would you guys get.  The Rem mag or the Rigby.  I know the ballistics are pretty close, and I don't know what I would use it for, but I think it would be cool to have.  I know CZ has a rigby for under 900 at the local competitor , but I haven't seen a remington anywhere local.  I've read that the rigby case operates with lower pressure and may last longer, but the remington cases are narrower, so you can fit more in the magazine.  Just curious.  Thanks. 
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416s are used for the mack and occasional peterbuilt stopped in the middle of the road. I use a Safari mod 70 in the Rem 416. which is helpful if you reload as just about anything can be made into cases.
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hey dale there isnt a u in peterbilt, the .416 rigby will totally sh*t can a whitetail on the spot i can tell you that, i would go for a .416rem in a m700
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The CZ bolt seems to operate a little roughly on their models that I've seen.  You might want to check that out yourself.  (Not something you want to deal with when charged by one of the "Big Five", or by any other critter for that matter.)  

I've fired the Remington .416, and it worked fine.  It's barrel-heavy when scoped, so you have to really be in shape to do good offhand shooting.  Ruger has a .416 Rigby, and it's another heavy (as in weight) rifle.  I haven't handled a scoped CZ, so can't give you an informed comment on that one.

The choice (.416 Remington vs .416 Rigby) is just one of those things you can have fun talking about and thinking about when you buy a new rifle.  There are advantages to each.
 
 
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Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

hey dale there isnt a u in peterbilt, the .416 rigby will totally sh*t can a whitetail on the spot i can tell you that, i would go for a .416rem in a m700


LMAO.  That's quite a sentence to be used to correct someone's spelling.  LaughWink
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I would get the Rigby.  If you are just getting it to have a big assed gun you might as well get the big one.  I have thought about getting a Rigby barrel for my Prohunter but don't know what I would use it for.  It would probably end up as a rabbit hunting gun.  Big%20Smile
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Originally posted by supertool73 supertool73 wrote:

Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

hey dale there isnt a u in peterbilt, the .416 rigby will totally sh*t can a whitetail on the spot i can tell you that, i would go for a .416rem in a m700


LMAO.  That's quite a sentence to be used to correct someone's spelling.  LaughWink
what can i say, im lazy and i hate grammar
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Either is fine.  Too bad CZ does not offer the Wby., because that would be the 416 that I would get above any.  For a 400 grain bullet the muzzle energy for the Wby. is around 6480 ft. pounds compared to around 5000 for the other 2, with a muzzle velocity of 2700 compared to about 2400 fps.  So if you can handle the extra recoil, the Wby. is the way to go.
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I hear the 416 weatherby is a rigby case with a belt added and loaded to higher pressures.  You can load it down to rigby levels.  Unfortunately, I don't have the money for the weatherby.  I like the CZ price for the rigby.  I haven't found a Rem mag that is priced similar to the CZ's rigby.  
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cz makes a nice rifle, i dont see any problem with going that way. the 416 rem is based off the 8mm rem case the 416 wby is based off the same case as the .378 and .460wby is.
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Brass avaliability would be the deciding factor for me. I've shot all 3, (Rigby, Rem. & Wby.) & the difference in recoil (to me) isn't a big deal.
A big bore isn't any fun sitting in the gun safe & you can always use the "Mine's Bigger" line in deer camp !
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I've found plenty of brass, locally, for the rigby and the weatherby, but not for the remington.  It's definately expensive.  The rigby is 130 for 50 cases.  I didn't even look at the weatherby's price.  I hear the rigby brass lasts a long time, cause of the low pressures, so I'm not too worried about that.
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Doesn't the Rigby operate around 30-30 pressure levels ? (40-45,000 psi)
That should result in LONG brass life, & since it's not a varmint rifle (unless you've got REALLY big varmints in your garden) 100 pcs. of brass should be a lifetime worth.
With a set of custom made dies, eg. Lee collet neck size, the next generation of shooter that inherit's it should get a nice setup !
Most of the big (.378 family) Weatherby brass can be had for around $60.00/20 or a bit less if you shop. The only REAL expensive Weatherby seems to be the .30-.378, probably because of the loss in mfgr. It runs around $85.00 or so for 20 here in the midwest.
 
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I'd choose the 416 rem, the brass is about half the price, though the 416 rigby definately has alot of history.
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