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I am looking to get me some descent binoculars.  My budget is about 400.  When it comes to scopes I am a dyed in the wool Leupold first guy.  I know there is lots of good stuff out there so please help me out.
 
I am looking in to the Zen rays as I read lots of good stuff about them until I looked here as the consensus here seems to be they are over rated.
 
I have no qulams with leupold but there are so many I dint know where to start.
 
I want the best bang for my $
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Originally posted by nitis nitis wrote:

I am looking in to the Zen rays as I read lots of good stuff about them until I looked here as the consensus here seems to be they are over rated.


That is hardly the consensus here or anywhere.

You would be well served with a pair of Zen Ray ED2 10X43s.  I don't think any binocular outright beats them in their price point.  They are easily better than anything from Leupold save the Gold Ring HD line. 

Another option would be the Theron Wapiti APO.  Some here like it better than the ED2s, I prefer the ED2s.

People I trust like the Kruger Caldera.  I have not tried the Kruger, but it is on my short list of binocular wants at the present.


If you shop, and look, and look ... you might find some Leupold Gold Ring HDs (demo or used) near your price range, otherwise I wholeheartedly recommend the Zens.


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I, personally, have and use and will promote Vortex's Viper binos because they rock and have that awesome warranty.  However, since someone else recommended the Leupy Gold Rings, it piqued my interest.  I did see a classified ad on another blog, without naming it specifically, it is snipershide.com.Big Grin A gentleman has one hell of a deal for his gold ring HD's under the "Optics For Sale" page 2 ads.  He wants 5...go get em'!
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A few days ago a Leupold Gold Ring HD 8x42 sold for $450.00 shipped. It was brand new in package. I cant believe I passed on it. I see several 32mm Gold rings still listed though.
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Originally posted by Bitterroot Bulls Bitterroot Bulls wrote:

Originally posted by nitis nitis wrote:

I am looking in to the Zen rays as I read lots of good stuff about them until I looked here as the consensus here seems to be they are over rated.


That is hardly the consensus here or anywhere.

You would be well served with a pair of Zen Ray ED2 10X43s.  I don't think any binocular outright beats them in their price point.  They are easily better than anything from Leupold save the Gold Ring HD line. 

Another option would be the Theron Wapiti APO.  Some here like it better than the ED2s, I prefer the ED2s.

People I trust like the Kruger Caldera.  I have not tried the Kruger, but it is on my short list of binocular wants at the present.


If you shop, and look, and look ... you might find some Leupold Gold Ring HDs (demo or used) near your price range, otherwise I wholeheartedly recommend the Zens.


 
 
A big ditto here on Bitterroot's post. My first choice would be the Zen Ray ED2s without question followed by the Theron Wapiti APOs. I have never tried the Calderas but I have an identical model from another retailer (Pro Optic model I posted a review of here on this forum) and they are fantastic for the price.
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nitis,
 
You are sort of out of luck with Leupold in your price range.  They have some glass there, but unless you can find a good Gold Ring for sale somehwere, they don't match other choices.
 
Like others, I don't have a clue where you got the consensus from here the ZEN ED series was over rated.  Since you are after the best bang for the buck, I will echo others and tell you the "BBB"  is best with ther ZEN ED 2, Theron Wapiti APO-ED, and Kruger Caldera.  These top about $425.
 
 
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I was trying to do the research before you ask thing and I had read that in anpther post however maybe they wer saying overrated and not competitive with the higher end glass of Swaro Zeiss etc
 
I do wish they were not Red China but not much isnt anymore so whatcha gunna do.
 
Anyother I should consider
 
Minox Vortex Nikon
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Originally posted by nitis nitis wrote:

I was trying to do the research before you ask thing and I had read that in anpther post however maybe they wer saying overrated and not competitive with the higher end glass of Swaro Zeiss etc
 
I do wish they were not Red China but not much isnt anymore so whatcha gunna do.
 
Anyother I should consider
 
Minox Vortex Nikon
Remember these are $400 class optics.  It would be unreasonable for me to tell you, or for you to expect from them, that they will equal the alpha class glass.  What you will get is somewhere upwards of 95% of the optical performance of the alpha, and opinions will vary widely on how much of a percentage difference there is in build quality.  For me personally, the $400 ZEN ED 2 and others represent the best balance for what you get versus what you pay.  I'll gladly settle for what I get from $400 and keep the extra $1,600 in my pocket.  When it comes right down to it, if you and I sit on the same rim rock glassing the same scene, you with a Swaro and me with the ZEN ED 2, whichever of us is the best glasser will see the most game.  If we switch binoculars, the results will be the same.  So in short, if you can't see it with a ZEN ED 2, you won't see it with a Swaro either.
 
What you will see is a number of posts from die hardened alpha users who steadfastly refuse to believe that this class of binocular will come as close to their prize glass as it does.  The don't like it and will use many arguments to defend their point.  One chief point made is the "Made in China".  I don't like that much either, but as you say ..."whatcha gunna do?"Smile


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Originally posted by nitis nitis wrote:

Minox Vortex Nikon


Minox's $400 and under offerings won't match the Zens.

Vortex's Talon HD is just another version of the Zen (by all appearances, specs, etc.), so it is worth a look.  The Vipers are nice, but a bit over your price range, and really don't offer much, if anything, over the Talons/Zens.

Nikon's Monarch series does not have the resolution of the others, from my experience.
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