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I am upgrading scopes on my Model 70 .30-06 and have decided on the Burris Sig Select. I already have Burris Signature rings on the rifle for a 40 mm scope. I have an FFII on another rifle with the Ballistic Plex and like it. I just want a step up with this rifle and keep a graduated reticle.
Q: Do I get any better view by going to the 3-12 x 44 or 4-16 x 44 than I would sticking with my current rings and getting the 40mm Signature Select?

Reading this forum has been most educational. Any feedback on this question would be appreciated.




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It would be helpful to know what kind of hunting you do, but for all-round use there is no reason to go to a larger objective lens.  I would just get a 3-10x40 with Ballistic Plex and use your existing rings.

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I hunt whitetail deer, elk and will go on my first antelope hunt this fall. Also, a trip to Africa is possible in the next couple of years, going for kudu, gemsbok, etc.

I practice out to 400 yards, and took a 'yote at 507 back in December.  Mind you, that was mostly good 'guesstimating' more than a practiced hand at long range shooting. That was done with my Elite 4200. If an Elite came with the graduated reticle, that would be a great scope.

Thanks for your feedback.

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For your purposes, I think, 3-10x40 is a perfect configuration.

As a side note Elite 4200 is coming out with a 3-9x40 with a hooldover reticle.

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3-9x40, best all around scope for 95% of the time.

 

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I'd look at a lot of other factors, such as size and weight, before I worried about 40 vs. 44mm.  You sure you can't use your current rings with a 44mm scope?  That's not much difference if you have any extra room.  Also, the 44mm objective is about 20% larger than a 40 and will give better low light performance; maybe not a lot, but some.  I'd get the scope I really want.  It sounds like you have big plans for it.

 

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I'm sure I can't use the existing rings for a 44 mm objective; I have to go to high rings.

Size and weight are not a big concern to me. I've used Weaver, Burris Fullfield and Bushnell scopes.

From what I've read and talked to scope reps at shows is that exit pupil, glass quality and internal lens sizing is critical for quality of light transmission, more so than objective size.

 

I've also been told that these 50 mm objectives in a 1 inch tube are more marketing than actual performance.

 

I just wasn't sure if the 44mm is ideal for a larger objective, or if the 40 is more than sufficient for my purposes.

 

The scope I want is to be a step up from the FFII/ Elite 3200 class with the graduated reticle.

I cannot afford the German stuff, and have read that the Burris Signature Select is truly a great scope for the money.

 

Thanks, everyone.

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Glass and lens coatings go further toward giving you a bright sight picture than a over sized objective lens. I use the Elite 4200 2.5-10x40 on my favorite hunting rigs and between their excellent glass, Rainguard and the FireFly reticle I have yet to find a better scope for my hunting purposes. I am primarily a whitetail hunter (Eastern) and this scope covers every scenario I have come across. The Burris SS is an excellent scope as well.
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How about Jackie Bushman Nikon Buckmasters....Good glass, well made and lots of features for the money. The new BDC on the 6-18 40mm makes a good match for .30-06 for most shots. Other than that, 2.5-10 X50mm Nikon Gold Monarch is a man's best friend. Super Scope for $600.00.
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Buckmaster is really not in the same league with Signature Select or Elite 4200.  Monarch Gold is a lot more expensive and I do not think it offers any advantage optically.

As for Nikon's BDC reticle, the jury is still out on that one.  I am not convinced that 2MOA dots will work well at longer distances, but I have not tried it yet.

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target shooting 30mm to 44mm

example 3-9x30 or 3-9x44mm less field of view target is not moving

the higher middle number the better for after 100 yards diferent yards field of view might be 50mm want to see the target

 

hunting

exmple 4-12x50mm 4-18x55mm first two number does not matter last number field of view the target is moving better for tracking animal of all sizes

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Petertt, I am not sure what you are trying to say here.  Could you elaborate a little?

 

Why does magnification not matter?

 

Also, larger objective lens usually means narrower field of view.

 

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Thanks everyone for your input. I ordered a Burris Signature Select 3-9 x 40 Ballistic Plex.
Once I go to the range I will do a side by side with my Elite 4200 3-10 x 40 and report observations.

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