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Can someone tell me a little about this scope, it was made in the USA and it says MC. IS this scope the same as the the German model that is T* coated. Does this scope have a big field of view or is it like the rooty poot 3x9x40 conquest? Is the glass different than the conquest line. I wonder if i will have have problems mounting it on a Winchester Mod 70, as far as the bolt handle clearing the eye piece. Any knowledge of this scope will be helpful, tell me what you think.

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No, it's not the same as the German Diavari line with T* coatings.  I believe that scope is the predecessor to the Conquest, and the fact that it is made in the US (assembled in the US, that is) leads me to believe it probably has the same optics as the Conquest.  The MC multicoating is the same as used on the Conquest line.
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"rooty poot" .... hehehe, what the hek is this?
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Multi coat T* same ol stuff in my opion. Yes i know the Diavari made in USA has MC same as Conquest. What i would like to know does this scope have the big field of view like the VMV.  "ROOTY POOT" = A riflescope with a small FOV, in other words TUNNEL VISION.
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alrighty on the rooty poot, never heard that one.

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Heys guys got my scope in today and very happy. The FOV in this scope blows away my 3-9x40 Conquest. Can't wait to check the resolution and brightness out tonight.
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Good to hear, let us know how it compares to the Conquest.  Welcome to OT.

 
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I had one of the older Diavari Zeiss, 3-9x36 scopes and I owned one of the earliest Zeiss Conquests.  My son's still own both scopes.  The Diavari originally cost $499. versus $299. (initial price) for the Zeiss Conquest.  The Diavari was superior to the Conquest in low light and optical clarity, but not by very much.  The Diavari was replaced, like-in-kind, by the V/VM, one inch tube scope, I believe.
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The Diavari MC model was the first scope that Zeiss built in America after they discovered that Americans were willing to mortgage homes or use a credit card to buy toys for themselves.  The T* is the German coating. The same stuff they use on their camera lenses. Shocked The MC is the Multi-Coating that they use for the stuff assembled here.  That way they can charge more for the German line of scopes....(kind of like Leupold. )  Bucky 
 
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But, at least the lenses used in the Zeiss MC scopes do not come from China.  I wish Leupold would come clean on this subject.
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China, kinda like schmidt getting glass from Asia as well as Germany, they all order a  certain grade and who ever supplies it  is irrelevant, doesn't matter as long as it meets spec. RFC thats a nice little scope and has the glass the Zeiss Zs had just put together here, also a side note, it was the leaded glass I think and not the newer PC lead free glass.  Like the rooty poot slang, will have to try it, Cheers.
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Well i knew it was not rooty poot conquest glass. This scope rocks, just as bright as alot of the 50 mm scopes. By the way leupold glass is as good as anybody elses from what i've seen. According to their web site their glass comes from the same venders as the the german scopes.
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Originally posted by goat goat wrote:

China, kinda like schmidt getting glass from Asia as well as Germany,
 
Schmidt & Bender gets all of their glass from Hungary from a company they own -- Hungaria Optikai KFT.
 
 
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....and they also make Hungarian-built Schmidt and Bender scopes, too....but they are not available here.  If you get your hands on one ( by buying one in Europe ) I don't think their USA guarantee is any good.  It's a marketing thing, I guess.  Smile

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RifleDude do the make the raw product, or is it imported and supplies from someone, by that I do not mean cut, grind, polish and coat the glass, and if so do you have a link that states that they actually make the raw product.
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I do not know if Zeiss outsources optical glass but they claim: manufacturing and control (I guess QA) of all optical components, including lens coatings, for the Diavari series riflescopes.  Interpret this translated marketing-speak as you may. 
 
I wonder if they source any lenses from Jena (formerly Zeiss)?
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Originally posted by goat goat wrote:

RifleDude do the make the raw product, or is it imported and supplies from someone, by that I do not mean cut, grind, polish and coat the glass, and if so do you have a link that states that they actually make the raw product.


Yes, their Hungarian optical division makes their own glass.  See the links provided above.  Their US website states this as well (see RH side of the page at the link below), though they don't mention the name of their glass company there; they only say they purchased the company that makes their glass.
http://www.schmidtbender.com/lensandcoatings.shtml



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Originally posted by Oldtrader3 Oldtrader3 wrote:

I do not know if Zeiss outsources optical glass but they claim: manufacturing and control (I guess QA) of all optical components, including lens coatings, for the Diavari series riflescopes.  Interpret this translated marketing-speak as you may. 
 
I wonder if they source any lenses from Jena (formerly Zeiss)?


The glass for all German-made Zeiss optics (including the Victory Diavari riflescopes) are supplied by Schott AG, which Zeiss owns.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schott_AG

The glass for the Zeiss Conquest, assembled in USA, is provided by Meopta of Czechoslovakia.
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Does Schmidt make the glass or do they just process it, by that I mean grind,cut, polish and so forth, or does an outside supplier send a raw product and then they process it.
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Where does the glass come from in my Diavari that is made in the USA?
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What makes you think that the Diavari is made here?  I was under the imprssion that these scopes are made in Germany according to their website.  In any case, they would use Schott glass made by Zeiss in germany.  The lens source for all Diavari's is still Zeiss Germany as far as I lnow.
 
Find out for yourself.  Do some digging and reading.


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Because it reads MADE IN USA on the ocular, do some research youself.
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Well the parts are made in Germany, but assembled in USA as several posters stated. From what i have read some folks think the Diavari has the samre glass as the conquest line, not true.
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Originally posted by RifleDude RifleDude wrote:

Originally posted by Oldtrader3 Oldtrader3 wrote:

I do not know if Zeiss outsources optical glass but they claim: manufacturing and control (I guess QA) of all optical components, including lens coatings, for the Diavari series riflescopes.  Interpret this translated marketing-speak as you may. 
 
I wonder if they source any lenses from Jena (formerly Zeiss)?


The glass for all German-made Zeiss optics (including the Victory Diavari riflescopes) are supplied by Schott AG, which Zeiss owns.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schott_AG

The glass for the Zeiss Conquest, assembled in USA, is provided by Meopta of Czechoslovakia.
Only Zeiss and Nikon make the raw glass itself, Schmidt just processes it.
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I also looked up the Wikipedia citing that you listed earlier before replying.  FYI, both of my Diavari scopes say: "Made in Germany" under the ocular lens.  They also are both 1" tubed scopes.  Being assembled in the USA must be a recent switch.  Is it only the 1" V/VM that is made here or is the 30mm V/VM still made in Germany?  I wouldn't think that the 30mm scopes would sell enough units in the US to be made here.
 
It is difficult to get information on these private corporation's products.  They are very secretive about their technology.  Also, there are a lot of Trolls on these shooting websites that keep asking questions about products that they will never buy.  Plus, they will not even try to dig out information for themselves when they can have others do it for them.  It takes some time and effort to glean facts about scope manufacturing from many sources.


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