| bro.steve wrote:|
Dude, are saying caliber choice because of the eye relief being a little shorter on the elite? Wonder what causes the reticles to go brown at twilight...they don't wash out or flare, do they? STeve
Yeah, thats what im sayin'. Eye relief is shorter on the Elite than the Viper and MUCH shorter than the Viper HS. So if its going on a heavy kicker, that would seal it for me....which is why my 300WM gets a new Viper HS. I also have two 270win's that both wear Elite 3-9x40's (one 4200 and one newer version). I really dont need anything beyond those two scopes and rifles (both 270's) for anything I do but....you know how that goes. One is a Lefty Tikka T3 Lite SS/Syn and the other is a Lefty SS/Lam Ruger Hawkeye. I would be perfectly capable of hunting the rest of my life with only those two rifles but i'd never say that in front of my wife
Reticles go brown in most scopes when the light dims. Its pretty bad in the new Redfields and even Leupolds I have as well. The Vipers are not immune to this either. I had a Leupold 6x42 with Heavy Duplex that was fantastic when the lights went out and the single Zeiss Conquest I had was pretty decent in dimm light as well.
Bottom line is nothing is perfect in low light because there are so many variables, how low of light are we talking, what is the exit pupil and quality of glass on the scope and what type of reticle - wire or etched, thin, medium or heavy duplex or other, what is the background, what power is the scope set two, how far away is the object you looking at, etc, etc.
I have yet to have any issues with the Elites or the Vipers related to lack of light, granted I've only had them for a few years. Hell, any of the scopes mentioned here are exponentially better than the old Redfields and Weavers and Leupolds my dad I used back when I started hunting and we never had any issues even back then 25-30 years ago.
In reality all three are very nice scopes that I am happy to own and grateful for the quality and selection we have in optics today compared to when I was a kid.
Edited by The Dude - March/15/2012 at 19:40