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I have been looking for a new rifle that would be adequate for hunting in Alaska. And I was thinking either 300 or 338 mags, but was able to shoot a Dakota 76 in 375H&H. I shot 300gn at 1600ft/sec and was surprised that the recoil was not that bad. I would rather shoot this than my buddy's Rem in 300wsm. Plus I was told you can down load it for smaller game. The shop can get me any of these four. A Rem, Browning, Winchester or a CZ. Thoughts on this cal and which rifle?


The velocity should have been 2600 not 1600.


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GunTests ran a comparison of the Remington and Winchester .375s in their September, 2012 issue.  They reviewed the CZ, Ruger M77 Mark II, and Kimber .375s in the March 2010 issue.  You might want to get copies of these issues to see what virtues and vices they noted for each.  (www.Gun-Tests.com
 
The .338 worked just fine on my brown bear hunt (a 250 grain Nosler partition put it down DRT).  It also worked well for others on that trip.  The .338 will do anything you need to do in North America.
 
if you ever hope to go to Africa for dangerous game, though, the .375 may be a better choice since it seems to be the minimum dangerous game caliber for most countries over there.
 
   


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  .375H&H is a great round.  Just in case you don't know though the load you shot is not exactly representitive of the recoil to expect when shooting even moderate loads.  My SIL's .45-70 load is a 405gr at 1600. 
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I'm shooting 270gr RNSP at 2760 in my 375H&H.  Not much recoil at all. 
500gr at 2450 in my 458Lott.
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Originally posted by Sparky<br> I shot 300gn at 1600ft/sec and was surprised that the recoil was not that bad. <br>[/QUOTE Sparky
 I shot 300gn at 1600ft/sec and was surprised that the recoil was not that bad.
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My bad. The velocity should have been 2600 not 1600. Well actually the three round avg was 2604. A


My bad. The velocity should have been 2600 not 1600. Well actually the three round avg was 2604. And from what I have read that is fairly representative of that round. But this is a whole new area for me. So I would like to get some more informed opinions. I have a 50BMG, but my next biggest cal is a 308.
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Mine is a Remington 700 classic and I could not be happier. I use both 270 and 300 gr bullets and the recoil is not bad at all.
 
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Originally posted by tahqua tahqua wrote:

Mine is a Remington 700 classic and I could not be happier. I use both 270 and 300 gr bullets and the recoil is not bad at all.
 

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Originally posted by tahqua tahqua wrote:

Mine is a Remington 700 classic and I could not be happier. I use both 270 and 300 gr bullets and the recoil is not bad at all.
 

Ah, Remington.  That barely qualifies it as a firearm.

The scope is nice though...

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Ouch. Obviously, you don't suffer from the dreadful Remmy desire syndrome! Me either. Big green isn't my favorite either. . 
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A CZ is mighty tempting.  So's a Winchester.  Secretly, I'd like to find a Mark X and put a left hand low swing safety on the shroud.  
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Savage 16/116 Bear Hunter in 375 Ruger

http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/models/

23" fluted adj brake, 7.75 pounds, under $1,000
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CZ550... after $1000.00+ of work...
 
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Some very nice rifles! So far it seems CZ and Winchester are the favorites.

Why no love for the Browning X bolt?

And is the 375 Ruger a rare cal? And how does it compare with the 375H&H?
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I had a Browning  375 H& H and it would NOT group as in good luck hitting the barn from inside. I have a TC Encore .375 H&H barrel that I shoot some and I really like the caliber and wish I had a Bullberry barrel in that caliber rather than the TC barrel.   I looked real hard at a Winchester not long ago and very much liked it. I wish Tikka T3 came in that caliber they go up to  .338 WM and stop.  I have been very impressed with the  .375 Ruger made By SAVAGE they seem to be a fine choice and slightly faster plus it is not a belted case.  So my first choice would be a stainless  Savage .375 Ruger and my second choice would be a Winchester 375 H&H.   There are also some Sako 85 stainless  .375 H&H on gunbroker.com
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Originally posted by Kickboxer Kickboxer wrote:

CZ550... after $1000.00+ of work...
 




Kb, that's the ticket. Real pretty. Sure hope the Brinkmann is cold.

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Check the temperature gauge...
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Originally posted by Kickboxer Kickboxer wrote:

Check the temperature gauge...


I saw that after I did the post.

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Actually, the Brinkmann has been replaced with a Komodo Egg.  I like it better for cooking, but cannot use it for picture taking... that sucks.
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If I were to buy a 375H&H (and it is on the list of guns I plan to get, but not near the top), I would be going for a CZ.  This version seems to fit me pretty well:

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Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

If I were to buy a 375H&H (and it is on the list of guns I plan to get, but not near the top), I would be going for a CZ.  This version seems to fit me pretty well:

ILya



Ilya, I just found a Action Arms catalog from 1994 and with it was a dist. price list. BRNO 602 Magnum Mauser barreled actions  in .300 Win. Mag, .375 H & H and .458 Win. Mag cost $371, $371 and $389.00.My CZ-85 Combat 9mm$479.00 and my 600 was $435.00 and my Timberwolf was $204.00

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Originally posted by Peddler Peddler wrote:

Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

If I were to buy a 375H&H (and it is on the list of guns I plan to get, but not near the top), I would be going for a CZ.  This version seems to fit me pretty well:

ILya



Ilya, I just found a Action Arms catalog from 1994 and with it was a dist. price list. BRNO 602 Magnum Mauser barreled actions  in .300 Win. Mag, .375 H & H and .458 Win. Mag cost $371, $371 and $389.00.My CZ-85 Combat 9mm$479.00 and my 600 was $435.00 and my Timberwolf was $204.00

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In 1994, I was in the process of graduating from high school and my primary purpose in life was to entertain myself as much as I could before starting college in the fall.  I think  I had succeeded since I do not remember that summer at all.

As much as I hate to admit, at that point of my life I had never heard about CZ or 375H&H...

ILya
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Originally posted by Sparky Sparky wrote:

Some very nice rifles! So far it seems CZ and Winchester are the favorites.

Why no love for the Browning X bolt?

And is the 375 Ruger a rare cal? And how does it compare with the 375H&H?




The 375 Ruger is no longer rare and it will be chambered in more and more manufacturer's rifles as time goes by. It started in the Ruger rifles and I believe now you can get it in Howa rifles and CZ Safari Classics

It has a little more powder capacity, is unbelted and will fit in a 3.4" action (win mag size)

Mine has a 24" barrel (a rebarrel and not the Savage I posted a pic of) and I have loaded a 260 gr Accubond to 3000 fps and my normal load is a 270 gr TSX at 2850 fps



The 375 Ruger and 375 H & H have about the same relationship that the 300 win mag and 300 H & H had in the past. Care to guess which will win out?

Don't get me wrong, the 375 H & H is a fine caliber. I just prefer the added oomph and unbelted standard action bolt throw


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