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Well, I hand loaded cartridges for my 375RUM in a Remington 700 BDL Deluxe   and finally had a chance to shoot it today.  I shot it off of a sand bag and it only took 8 shells to get it sighted in at 100 yards at 1 inch high, in less than a 1 inch group.  As far as the rifle is concerned, it is a Remington BDL Deluxe, through and through.  There is absolutely nothing to gripe about.  Now, the only thing of concern, is he recoil.  This is the most severe recoil rifle I have ever shot.  It made the 458 win. mag., by CZ, look like like a 308 in comparison.  The first shot was stunning, but the second shot hurt.  I made the stupid mistake of putting a shooting glove over the butt end of the rifle after a couple shots, as I was shooting with a tee shirt.  Only problem is, is that it began to shot out of my arm and once caught my right hand and abraded my thumb and second digit to cause it to bleed quite profusely.  After getting used to the recoil and sighting it in, it was magnificent.  Final 3 shot group was slightly less than a 3 shot group with hand loads.  Awesome.
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That is good news about the accuracy. The recoil comparison is no surprise. That case is huge!
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Sounds like a fun day at the range --sure beats  day at work

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40 rounds per range session???.......Sounds good to me!!!Heavy%20Recoil 
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That should be a slightly less than 1 inch group of three.  I calculated the recoil, using an 8.5 pound rifle, rifle plus scope and mounting hardware (rings and bases) and it came out to be 73 ft. lbs. of energy.  The 460 Wby. in a 10 lb. rifle delivers 100.  My shoulder is swollen and is quite achy today.  Much worse than with the 458 win. mag..  When I was loading the 375, I kept thinking, I know the burn rate is different, but something has to give here, this is almost 20 more grains of powder, in a rifle that weighs 2 less pounds.  The other thing about the recoil is how sharp it was.  The fps of recoil must have been close to 20.  The other thing I was proud of, no flinching.  Once I had placed the safety on and forgot.  I went to squeeze of a round and never flinched.  Just progressively pulled until I realized the safety was on when the rifle never went off.  This is a rifle everybody has to shoot once.

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Originally posted by Dolphin Dolphin wrote:

That should be a slightly less than 1 inch group of three.  I calculated the recoil, using an 8.5 pound rifle, rifle plus scope and mounting hardware (rings and bases) and it came out to be 73 ft. lbs. of energy.  The 460 Wby. in a 10 lb. rifle delivers 100.  My shoulder is swollen and is quite achy today.  Much worse than with the 458 win. mag..  When I was loading the 375, I kept thinking, I know the burn rate is different, but something has to give here, this is almost 20 more grains of powder, in a rifle that weighs 2 less pounds.  The other thing about the recoil is how sharp it was.  The fps of recoil must have been close to 20.  The other thing I was proud of, no flinching.  Once I had placed the safety on and forgot.  I went to squeeze of a round and never flinched.  Just progressively pulled until I realized the safety was on when the rifle never went off.  This is a rifle everybody has to shoot once.
...................................There is always the Caldwell lead (pussy) sled................Shoot once?? I`ll take 40!......No lead sleds allowed!!!
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I have always been reticent to put really high power rifles into rests for fear of cracking the stock.  This may be an old wives tale.
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Originally posted by Dolphin Dolphin wrote:

I have always been reticent to put really high power rifles into rests for fear of cracking the stock.  This may be an old wives tale.
...............................I don`t think you`ll have a problem with a cracking stock using a sled. But then, I never have used a sled for anything!!
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Originally posted by Ed Connelly Ed Connelly wrote:

You don't have any snow in Anaheim anyway, you moron!    Bucky                        Roll%20on%20Floor%20Laughing
......................Yer right! Not in Anaheim!!...........But we have snow in the mountains 60 miles away;;;;;YOU BONEHEAD!!!!........I would love to watch `ol Ed go 40 rounds from a .375 Ruger in one range session!!! NO LEAD SLED and a t-shirt on!!...............We`ll see who has the the last laugh!!!.......................Laugh
 
 
 
 
 
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Yeah, but a 375 Ruger, come on, what a whimp caliber.Smile
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Originally posted by Dolphin Dolphin wrote:

Yeah, but a 375 Ruger, come on, what a whimp caliber.Smile
LocoLocoLocoLoco ...............................It will kill anything that the 375 RUM will!!.......NO?..........You know better than that!!........I`ll take that WIMPY caliber anytime!!  
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Yeah, and you are getting it in a nice rifle.  I love my Howas and Vanguards.  Which Howa model are you getting it in?
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Dolphin, if you aren't using one you have to try a PAST magnum recoil shield.  It is the only way I can bench shoot our 375 Rum without ending up with a separated shoulder.  That plus a limbsaver pad should make it somewhat tolerable.  Not near as bad on a running deer target although my right hand can take a bruising from the trigger guard on follow up shots.
 
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Originally posted by Dolphin Dolphin wrote:

Yeah, and you are getting it in a nice rifle.  I love my Howas and Vanguards.  Which Howa model are you getting it in?
.............................It is the M1500 with the Weatherby Vanguard action, free floater barrel, front and rear iron sites and the 20" barrel..................Almost the same as the Ruger Alaskan except the Howa`s safety is different (better) and the Howa will have more of a semi shinier blued barrel where as the Alaskan has the more dull matte finish! The Howa`s barrel will also be free floating where the Alaskan is not! The Howa will weigh about a 1/2 pound less than the Alaskan`s 8 lbs., coming in @ 7.6 lbs...........I would expect and hope that the Howa should be slightly more accurate due to the free floating barrel and bedding.......... 
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Everyone that I own shoots like a dream in a variety of calibers including a 308, 300 win. mag., 270 win. and a 300 Wby..  Why is it going to take so long to get it?  Are they just cranking up production?
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Originally posted by Dogger Dogger wrote:

Dolphin, if you aren't using one you have to try a PAST magnum recoil shield.  It is the only way I can bench shoot our 375 Rum without ending up with a separated shoulder.  That plus a limbsaver pad should make it somewhat tolerable.  Not near as bad on a running deer target although my right hand can take a bruising from the trigger guard on follow up shots.
 
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Thanks for the info.  I have got it sighted in with the bullets that a I am going to use for bear hunting.  Sierra gamekings, 300 grains.  The rifle printed a slightly less than 1 inch group at 100 yards with a little over 95 grains of H4831 powder.  For hunting it will not be a problem, but will definately have to take your advice the next time a sight in another load.  I now have a large bruise on my bicep from blood that has drifted down from my shoulder.  Doesn't hurt that bad, but I can only imagine what the 460 Wby. feels like.
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Originally posted by Dolphin Dolphin wrote:

Everyone that I own shoots like a dream in a variety of calibers including a 308, 300 win. mag., 270 win. and a 300 Wby..  Why is it going to take so long to get it?  Are they just cranking up production?
...................................Yes! Production according to Legacy Sports will start sometime in the late spring or early summer. The delay is due to Japan`s prior commitments in production schedules! Delivery to me will be between Aug. & Oct............From what I understand, the Japanese plant that makes these are extremely particular on quality control. Same plant where the Vanguards are made also.................  
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Originally posted by Dolphin Dolphin wrote:

Everyone that I own shoots like a dream in a variety of calibers including a 308, 300 win. mag., 270 win. and a 300 Wby..  Why is it going to take so long to get it?  Are they just cranking up production?
...........................Prior production commitments! Production should start in early summer!!
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Originally posted by Ed Connelly Ed Connelly wrote:

They are spray painting a Jap Arisaka and selling it to Squeeze as a Howa!!    Roll%20on%20Floor%20Laughing
And they ain't done yet, they need more time.................
................................We`ll have Ed drop in at the Jap plant to make sure my Howa gets done properly????...PlaneOn second thought! Lose the parachute!!!..................Laugh
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