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Thought that I would submit this re-loading data, which I shot several weeks ago at the range but forgot to post earlier.
 
Rifle......................................................Ruger Alaskan (aka a "Squeezer Special")
BBL Length...........................................20"
Scope...................................................1.5-5x20 VX3 Leupold German #4
Brass....................................................Hornady
Primer...................................................WLRM
COL......................................................3.250"
Bullet....................................................Hornady SP
Bullet weight........................................225 gr.
Powder.................................................RL 15
Charge (near max.)..............................79.9 gr.
MV chrono`d @ 10' from muzzle..........3016
3 shot group size; 100 yards...............1.19" (measured from outside hole to outside hole)
 
Sorry! No pics!........Just from my notes w/ caliper bullet hole measurements!! 
 
Not too bad ay boys?
 
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Looking good to me Squeezer.  Looks like your all setup to blood it.  Would be a good timber rifle for bear up here.
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  WOW Squeezer,that puts it right up there with a 26"bbl .358 STA w/225's according to Noslers web!
 
til later
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Originally posted by 300S&W 300S&W wrote:

  WOW Squeezer,that puts it right up there with a 26"bbl .358 STA w/225's according to Noslers web!
 
til later
.............Yep! That was Hornady`s design idea behind the 375 Ruger! 375 H&H performance from a shorter `06 length action and from a handier rifle with a shorter tube as well! Naughty..........24" to 25" barreled 375 H&H performance from only a 20" tube!!......That it does!!.........Woo Hoo!!!!!!!!!!
  
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Sounds like a good combo.
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You oughta try the 300 grain BTSP from hornady.  Much higher BC and downrange energy.  A big beast like that, you should feed it some big pills.
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Originally posted by supertool73 supertool73 wrote:

You oughta try the 300 grain BTSP from hornady.  Much higher BC and downrange energy.  A big beast like that, you should feed it some big pills.
.................I PLAN TO!!!!Big%20GrinBig%20GrinBig%20GrinBig%20Grin
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Originally posted by Ed Connelly Ed Connelly wrote:

.......................Smart ass!.............Laugh
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Originally posted by supertool73 supertool73 wrote:

You oughta try the 300 grain BTSP from hornady.  Much higher BC and downrange energy.  A big beast like that, you should feed it some big pills.
......................I ran the ballistic comparisons on the Hornady external ballistics calculator.......While the 225 gr. @ 3000 fps is flatter shootin, the 300 gr. @ about 2550 fps, retains more down range energy for sure!
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I like the idea of throwing bricks!
 
If you've got a big boy might as well flaunt it (no smart comments please).
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Originally posted by Dogger Dogger wrote:

I like the idea of throwing bricks!
 
If you've got a big boy might as well flaunt it (no smart comments please).
......Bricked..................Brick%20Hit................Hows dat?
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Originally posted by Big Squeeze Big Squeeze wrote:

Originally posted by supertool73 supertool73 wrote:

You oughta try the 300 grain BTSP from hornady.  Much higher BC and downrange energy.  A big beast like that, you should feed it some big pills.
......................I ran the ballistic comparisons on the Hornady external ballistics calculator.......While the 225 gr. @ 3000 fps is flatter shootin, the 300 gr. @ about 2550 fps, retains more down range energy for sure!


Yup.  That is why I never understand why everyone buys .30 cal mags and .338 cal mags and shoot 180/185 grain bullets out of them.  They might be faster right off the line, but the heaver bullets will out perform them in every other aspect.  If I had a .338 250 grain would be the lightest I shot.  A .375 then 300's all the time.  That is just me though, I am always more concerned with the downrange performance and deep penetration over speed.  Then on top of that sometimes people buy these huge guns and get the bullets going so fast that they blow apart when they impact the game.  I was talking to a guy at the range who was shooting a .30/378 and was bragging that he was topping 3400 fps with some light bullets.  Then he started complaining that when he shoots a deer it blows apart on impact and does not even kill the deer.  I told him to shoot some heaver bullets.  He said well they won't go as fast.  I said well ya but they won't blow apart and they will actually kill the deer.  He just huffed and walked off. 

The guys with the .308s shoot 168 SMK's because they get 50 fps more out of them off the line.  Well when you start shooting 1000 and beyond those guys run into big problems because the 168's go subsonic at just past 900 yards.  The 175 SMK's stay super sonic past 1200.  Me I will take the slower heavy bullets with high BCs any day over the fast and light.  
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Originally posted by supertool73 supertool73 wrote:

Originally posted by Big Squeeze Big Squeeze wrote:

Originally posted by supertool73 supertool73 wrote:

You oughta try the 300 grain BTSP from hornady.  Much higher BC and downrange energy.  A big beast like that, you should feed it some big pills.
......................I ran the ballistic comparisons on the Hornady external ballistics calculator.......While the 225 gr. @ 3000 fps is flatter shootin, the 300 gr. @ about 2550 fps, retains more down range energy for sure!


Yup.  That is why I never understand why everyone buys .30 cal mags and .338 cal mags and shoot 180/185 grain bullets out of them.  They might be faster right off the line, but the heaver bullets will out perform them in every other aspect.  If I had a .338 250 grain would be the lightest I shot.  A .375 then 300's all the time.  That is just me though, I am always more concerned with the downrange performance and deep penetration over speed.  Then on top of that sometimes people buy these huge guns and get the bullets going so fast that they blow apart when they impact the game.  I was talking to a guy at the range who was shooting a .30/378 and was bragging that he was topping 3400 fps with some light bullets.  Then he started complaining that when he shoots a deer it blows apart on impact and does not even kill the deer.  I told him to shoot some heaver bullets.  He said well they won't go as fast.  I said well ya but they won't blow apart and they will actually kill the deer.  He just huffed and walked off. 

The guys with the .308s shoot 168 SMK's because they get 50 fps more out of them off the line.  Well when you start shooting 1000 and beyond those guys run into big problems because the 168's go subsonic at just past 900 yards.  The 175 SMK's stay super sonic past 1200.  Me I will take the slower heavy bullets with high BCs any day over the fast and light.  
................In the past when hunting elk with my 300 WM and in the future hunting elk with my 300 WSM compact, I will always use the slower 200 grainers.
 
At 2800+ fps MV, with a 200 grain Nosler A/B from my wsm, I still have 1951 ft. lbs of energy @ 500 yards.
 
These "speed freakos" with their barrel thrashing 30-378`s, can keep em. They come from "ignorant speed school" where the only thing that matters to them is speed.
 
Nevermind that excessive velocity on impact won`t penetrate as well because of more bullet destruction. For elk and moose, I`ll take a 200 grainer @ 2700 to 2900 fps. at anytime, before I`ll take a 165 to 180 grainer @ 3400 to 3500 fps.
 
With impressive bullet speeds, its more of an ego thing with the "speed freak" types, rather than common sense!
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Originally posted by Big Squeeze Big Squeeze wrote:

 
With impressive bullet speeds, its more of an ego thing with the "speed freak" types, rather than common sense!


Yup, that is it right there.  I think you nailed it right on the head.
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As one of my favorite liberal bashing radio hosts,,, Mark Levine,,, would say; "THANK ME VERY MUCH".........................Bow....................Laugh
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Fine shooting, Squeeze.
It sounds like the RL-15 is good stuff, too. I look forward to the RL-17 since I haven't used any of their powders, yet.
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the more reloader powders i try the more i want to try others in the series, like now i have used r-19 and r-22 so i would love to try r-15 10x and r-17 along with r-25

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Originally posted by tahqua tahqua wrote:

Fine shooting, Squeeze.
It sounds like the RL-15 is good stuff, too. I look forward to the RL-17 since I haven't used any of their powders, yet.
............Thanks!.............I`m also going to try some of Jeff Quinn`s reloading data for the 375 Ruger, using some H-4350.
 
Now on "gunblast.com" "archives" section; 2/6/07. He tested the 23" tubed Hawkeye African last year. He`s got some very impressive stuff there.............I`d like to see some data for the 375 Ruger using some new RL 17. Have not seen any yet. Too new!
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Just ordered on of the 77 Alaskans for a customer.  He does not reload and wanted me to get him some ammo too.  Which of these would you pick?
 
HORN 8231 375 RUG 270 SP 20/10
HORN 8233 375 RUG 300 SP 20/10
HORN 82333 375 RUG 300 DGX 20/10
HORN 8232 375 RUG 300 FMJRN 20/10
 
He hunts Alaska, just returned with a brown bear and plans to go back and will also be taking it to Africa.
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HORN 82333 375 RUG 300 DGX
This would get my vote.
 
 
or
375 RUGER 300 GR DGS
375 Ruger 300 gr. FMJ-RN
8232
Velocity (fps) / Energy (ft-lbs)
Muzzle 100 yd 200 yd 300 yd 400 yd 500 yd
2660/4713 2344/3660 2050/2800 1780/2110 1536/1572 1328/1174
Trajectory (inches)
Muzzle 100 yd 200 yd 300 yd 400 yd 500 yd
-1.5 2.4 0.0 -10.8 -32.6 -69.2


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Originally posted by Chris Farris Chris Farris wrote:

Just ordered on of the 77 Alaskans for a customer.  He does not reload and wanted me to get him some ammo too.  Which of these would you pick?
 
HORN 8231 375 RUG 270 SP 20/10
HORN 8233 375 RUG 300 SP 20/10
HORN 82333 375 RUG 300 DGX 20/10
HORN 8232 375 RUG 300 FMJRN 20/10
 
He hunts Alaska, just returned with a brown bear and plans to go back and will also be taking it to Africa.
...........................Great choice in a rifle,, that .375 Ruger Alaskan!!Big%20Grin..Whistling...Whistling........For big bears and African plains game, the 270 Horn SP..... For the dangerous African game, the 300 FMJ, DGX are fine....From the Alaskan`s 20" tube, tell him to expect about 2650 to 2700 fps MV with the 270 gr. Hornady factory loadings and about 2550 to 2600 fps or so from the 300 grainers.........Tell him that "Squeezer" approves of his rifle choice!!!...........Laugh 
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Originally posted by Big Squeeze Big Squeeze wrote:

Thought that I would submit this re-loading data, which I shot several weeks ago at the range but forgot to post earlier.
 
Rifle......................................................Ruger Alaskan (aka a "Squeezer Special")
BBL Length...........................................20"
Scope...................................................1.5-5x20 VX3 Leupold German #4
Brass....................................................Hornady
Primer...................................................WLRM
COL......................................................3.250"
Bullet....................................................Hornady SP
Bullet weight........................................225 gr.
Powder.................................................RL 15
Charge (near max.)..............................79.9 gr.
MV chrono`d @ 10' from muzzle..........3016
3 shot group size; 100 yards...............1.19" (measured from outside hole to outside hole)
 
Sorry! No pics!........Just from my notes w/ caliper bullet hole measurements!! 
 
Not too bad ay boys?
 
...................Here is a result from today at the range!
 
Same as above except;
 
270 gr. Hornady SP
87 gr.
H-4350
2808 fps. (average) Naughty
1.095" OD (3 shot group average) 100 yards
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Nice!  H-4350 is an "Extreme" powder, which means it is less sensitive to temperature variations than other powders.  This makes it a particularly good choice for African hunting.
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