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I've currently have a Vari X III 1.5x5 on a light weight Rem 700 375 H&H and it's worked well so far but I would like to have a little more magnification.  I've got a VX II 2x7 available to put on this rifle but am not positive it will hold up to the recoil.  This rifle is as I said, light weight and it bumps quick and hard.  Actually quicker and harder by far than my 300 RUM when using full power loads in each of them and heavier bullets.  The reason for more magnification is that the 375 is going to become a more used backup rifle and possibly one that will be used first for more critters in the future.  I potentially would like to try this out on some possibly longer range situations with animals smaller than elk and I'm like a lot of others and have gotten accustomed to the higher mag variables that are in use these days.
 
Just wondering how the VX II holds up and suspecting as with all the Leupold's I've had it will be just fine.  Eye relief is actually listed as a tad more although field of view would be a little less of course.
 
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I think it'll be fine, leupold is known for their durabilty and they do have a great warrenty if something should go bad.
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Yeah, their customer service is great.  However, going out at the wrong time could be very aggravating to say the least!
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Swarovski Z-6, 1-6x24 or 1.7-10x42. These scopes will take the recoil. Field of view is unmatched. Clarity of image is the best I have seen, equal to SuB or Zeiss. I personally like the color transmission of the Swaro coatings better than Zeiss Victory line. Warranted by SONA for life of owner.
 
I have a Swaro Z-6i on my own 375H&H, no regrets. For me it just doesn't get any better.
 
I have no experience with the VX-II line, I have never owned one. I would trade the two Leupolds and some coin for one of the Z-6 Swaros on the sample list. JMHO though.
 
Hope that helps.
 
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By the way, Tulie, is the Rem 700 an XCR model? How does it group?

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i just put a vortex viper 2x7x32 on my H&H going to see how she works this weekend. the vortex rep here told me that the viper could handle the H&H.
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Originally posted by Tulie Tulie wrote:

Yeah, their customer service is great.  However, going out at the wrong time could be very aggravating to say the least!
 
Everything can break and good ole murphy is always there when you dont need it at the time.  Thing is that leu has been known not to break and if so they are prompt to take care of you.  I think your fine with what ya got.


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I use , depending on what I hunt, Zeiss Diavari Victory 3-12x56 or Zeiss Conquest 2,5-8x32 on my Sako 85 SS  .375 H&H. No problems with eye relief. This gun is a lightweight 7 pound tackdriver.
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I put a FX3 6x42 Leupold with heavy duplex on my .375 H&H and I like it real well for a hunting rifle.  I dont see much need for more magnification than 6x and you could probably live with a 4x but the fixed power scopes tend to hold up to abuse better than anything.
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The V-II can certainly handle the recoil of the .375 H&H.
I also had a 1.5-5 Leo on my .375 H&H M700 and thought it was a good match for the rifle.

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The rifle is about a 2004 model and is a stainless with a synthetic stock 700 BDL.  It's light, has a really good trigger and does shoot well.  1 to 1.5 inch groups, 3 to 5 shots at 100 yards are the norm with anything I've tried including factory stuff.  This one seems to like 300 grain bullets and also likes some of the Barnes 250's.  For some reason though, this one gets more velocity than it should.  It also will make me wish for my 338 back after just a few shots!
 
Yeah, the Swaro's are fantastic, I had some bino's of theirs that got stolen and wish I had found that guy!  I just don't want to drop the bucks into them at this point.  I also like the Zeiss stuff very much.  Got some older bino's and a Conquest that is very nice on my 300 RUM.  I reckon I'm just nit picking with wanting something else with higher power and I'm sure the VX II will work I just wondered if anybody had problems with them on a heavier kicker.  The Vari X III is fine as long as I don't try to reach out too far.  I also have a start of an idea of another place to use the Vari X III so am trying to convince myself to play musical scopes again!
 
Thanks for the input!
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the H&H is very accurate.



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Nice group, Hunter!
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that was a stab in the dark handload too, i just picked a number and loaded it up shot the group on 6x with the 4200 that was on it. i was pretty happy with the group so i didnt mess with it any after that. i may try some 260gr accubonds next year.
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you missed the pink dot though.
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the rifle wasnt sighted in, i load up some loads for bore sighting and get it close then i shoot my test groups. as long as they hit the paper im happy. when i get something like that where its a nice group i then adjust the scope for that load.
its suppose to be an orange spot, apparently my scanner didnt like the orange.


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Sure it was orange!!  Whistling  Not a bad group though.
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Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

that was a stab in the dark handload too, i just picked a number and loaded it up shot the group on 6x with the 4200 that was on it. i was pretty happy with the group so i didnt mess with it any after that. i may try some 260gr accubonds next year.
 
Yeah, mine likes the Hornady 270's as well but I've been using 380 powder since I got mine.  I want to try out some Varget and see what that will do.  I've seen sub inch groups with the Sierra 300's and with the Barnes 250's.  What got me though was the velocity I was getting out of everything.  Seemed to be up to 100 fps higher than what I thought I would get.  That's why I'm tempted to put a higher mag scope on it and try it out on some longer range stuff.  It won't do what my 300 RUM will do at a long distance but it isn't bad and it thumps anything at any sane range.  It's also quite a bit lighter than my RUM which makes it nice to carry but a little tougher on scopes and the shoulder when you squeeze the trigger.  On the other hand, I never did believe in over kill so it fits the bill for about anything!
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i bought some varget and some h-380 to try and im not sure i tried either yet, i know i tried reloader 15 and imr 4064. mine is heavy, 10lbs plus, with the scope. it must weigh close to 11lbs loaded with 5 rounds of ammo.
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Mine is less than 8 lbs as it sets currently and as much fun as it is to carry, from the bench I have to be careful.  If I get lazy and don't get my trigger hand in the right position or crawl the stock at all it will let me know I goofed up.  Not to mention, get it a tad high on the shoulder or on the collar bone and it also tells me to start paying attention!  This one recoils more quickly like a 300 mag but with a bit more authority.  Eye relief is a must have on it and that's part of my original question about a scope standing the recoil. 
 
I've got a really heavy 1000 yard RUM that has a Super Sniper on it with an integral barrel brake and it's a cake walk to shoot ( just make sure you have plugs and ear muffs on!) compared to the 375.  Oh well, I figure if you want to play you will also have to pay!
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I have 270 TSXs shooting about .75" @ 100 now with RL15, I am going to work on 260AB loads after deer season... no scanner to show the target, though!
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No matter how you slice it, .75 inch groups with a hunting rifle is not bad and especially with something of this type.  I just haven't played around enough with mine to really know what the best reloading combination for it is.  Changing powder will be the next thing to work on but with the price of all the components still going up I probably will focus on some others before getting too wound up about this one. 
 
Still wonder how different scopes would hold up to it.  Specifically if the Nikon Monarch's would last very long.  I've just sent a Buckmaster back to them for work so will see if their customer service has improved since the last time I sent something to them.  From that experience they have a long way to go to match Leupold's service.
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the 4200 elite went on mine as soon as i brought it home, it was sitting on my .264win mag, and since i bought the viper the 4200 went back on the .264. i bet i shot at least 100 rounds with that 4200 on and it held up fine. like i said the vortex rep here told me he was certain that the viper could handle the H&H. once you shoot a deer or a hog with the H&H (if you are anything like me) you will really have second thoughts about hunting with anything else again. animals go down right now.

i should also mention that if you do hunt in adverse weather especially vast temp changes that varget is an excellent choice it is a very temp insensitive powder. the imr 4064 that i use is probably one of the worst, and here i sit in the woods at -20 or more at times and my H&H is loaded with the stuff. i do try to do my load development in the winter to help me get a better idea of where bullets will land. if i lived down south it wouldnt be an issue.


i know this has zero to do with the issue at hand i will stop babbling now.


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