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Have my eye on a Remington 798 in 375 H&H.  Need it like a hole in the but one of those iconic calibers/rifles that everyone should have like a Winchester 94, M1 Garand and 1911.

Saw earlier posts on the forum that typically recommends low power variables due the Dangerous Game Rifle role this caliber typically is used for.

Prefer something that will take advantage of its point blank range reach out to ~300 yards with a 5x or higher erector.  Capped turrets since this will be a hunting rifle.

Low end is around 2X with a top end at least 10X with extended/long eye relief of ~4 inches.

Meostar R2 would be a good fit but don't like the 56mm objective.  The Swarovski Z5 line is another option but low end is 3.5x and really don't need 18X as top end.  Z6 is outside my $1500 price range.

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I used a Leatherwood CMR on my CZ550 375H&H for quite a while... it worked VERY well.  But I moved that scope to an accursed AR and put an Aimpoint Hunter on the 375.  I like the Aimpoint.  It is very good to 300+.  There are many scopes that satisfy your requirements.  You could always go to Leupold 2.5-8.  Very low profile and should hold up.   
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A lot of my German friends swear by the Aimpoint Hunter.  They are boar hunters, which don't spend a lot of time standing around after the first shot.

Why the low profile?  I can see where it might help with recoil; reducing the chances of getting kissed by the scope.  Aesthetics?

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A lot of people like the low-profiles... it doesn't much matter to me if it works and suits my purposes.  The Aimpoint Hunter is an excellent sight for a 300yd PBR.  The 375 H&H is going to be my "second" hunting rifle this year... first is going to be 378 Wby Mag Champlin with a 1-6Z6i.  I truly thought about and almost did put a Hunter on that rifle, but at the last moment decided to keep it "traditional". 
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378 Wby.  I shot the rifle once and not for the faint of heart.  Definitely leaves an impression mentally and physically compared to the 375 H&H.

I'm really a big fan of the 3-10x Z3.  Picked one up on the Sample List that is mounted on my 7mm-08  and see there is another one out there.  Has the BRX reticle, which is definitely thin and unnecessary for the ranges I would be shooting at.  Maybe a nice 4A version will post.

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2-12x42 VX6.  Very tough, excellent glass, and adjustments have been perfect IME.  Most user friendly variable made.
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Few other options to consider -
 
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If it were me I like the Sightron SIII the best. One I used was very nice. 
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I have a .375 H&H and it has been wearing a Kahles 1.1-4x24 with a 1.5-4x20 Leupold for back up. Both are in Talley QD's.
I believe in the bigger the caliber the smaller the scope and would not consider a 50 or 56 mm objective scope. I like the suggestion for the 2.5-8 Leupold if it would fit between the rings. The less mass there is on mounts and scope with a heavy kicking rifle, the better. If you need higher magnification the 3.5-10 Leupold should work well too.
I would consider the following:
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I have the 1.75-6x32 Leupold VX-3 on my 9.3x62mm, which is pretty similar in KE and recoil.  It works great and holds zero like a champ.
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Originally posted by Marine24 Marine24 wrote:

378 Wby.  I shot the rifle once and not for the faint of heart.  Definitely leaves an impression mentally and physically compared to the 375 H&H.

I'm really a big fan of the 3-10x Z3.  Picked one up on the Sample List that is mounted on my 7mm-08  and see there is another one out there.  Has the BRX reticle, which is definitely thin and unnecessary for the ranges I would be shooting at.  Maybe a nice 4A version will post.

My best all around, most loved deer rifle is a 458 Lott Ruger #1.  It has a 4x Conquest on it... very rough on variables. 

However, those scopes SVT mentioned are all viable options. 

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The 1.5-5×20 Leeupold VX lll has been a standard scope on 375 s up here for a long time. The 2-7×32 VX ll also. . The 1 3/4-6 x 36 VX lll worked very well for me also. .
You r planning on having the reciever and bases opened up to the 8×40 screws I hope.
The 375 will destroy a stock if u shoot it alot unless its been bedded and relieved properly. Even my 9.3×64 split its stock when I started pushing 285 gr bullets up to 2700 fps.
There isn't anything wrong with a fixed 4 power on a 375. . My last H+H I had an M8, 3×20 long tube. And it was and last thing I knew it was still working great. That scope has killed over 20 Sitka Blacktails and capsized a bunch of brown bears with the 416 Taylor switch barrel on the rifle.
I put a 1.5-6×40 E dot Burris Signature Select on several rifles. 9.3×64, 416 Rem Mag. , 375 Ruger. . It held up pretty well, which surprised me.
I want to try the 1-6. SWFA SS scope on my 9.3×64 . It will take real good mounting to keep it in place but it would cover most of the hunting bases that rifle will be in.
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The 3-9 SWFA SS and the 3-15×42 SWFA SS scopes should hold up. . The only thing they don't have is a lighted reticle. But a good flashlight mounted on a pic rail under the barrel will solve that. And a good flashlight is invaluable for rootin a bear out of the brush.
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Originally posted by Marine24 Marine24 wrote:

Have my eye on a Remington 798 in 375 H&H.  Need it like a hole in the but one of those iconic calibers/rifles that everyone should have like a Winchester 94, M1 Garand and 1911.

Saw earlier posts on the forum that typically recommends low power variables due the Dangerous Game Rifle role this caliber typically is used for.

Prefer something that will take advantage of its point blank range reach out to ~300 yards with a 5x or higher erector.  Capped turrets since this will be a hunting rifle.

Low end is around 2X with a top end at least 10X with extended/long eye relief of ~4 inches.

Meostar R2 would be a good fit but don't like the 56mm objective.  The Swarovski Z5 line is another option but low end is 3.5x and really don't need 18X as top end.  Z6 is outside my $1500 price range.

Thoughts?

If you like the idea of the Meostar R2 and aren't in a huge hurry, I believe Meopta is releasing a 1.7-10x42 this summer.  The Leica ER 2.5-10x42 would be a nice choice as well -- I've got an ER 3.5-14x42 that I'm probably moving onto my .375 H&H at some point...

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Thank you all for the recommendations.  I ended up going the CZ 550 Safari route that has the milled dovetail rail in the receiver.  Makes me wonder how effective rings will be on a rifle like this, but can always get it drilled and tapped.  (CTF:  Pointed noted on the 8x40 screws). 

Doug:  Can you elaborate on your comment "The less mass there is on mounts and scope with a heavy kicking rifle, the better."  Anticipate your point is the more mass on the scope, the more impact and potential for damage to the scope.
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Before firing all pieces in the firearm system are at rest. When fired the gun recoils back thus "wanting" to leave the scope behind. A heavier scope is both harder to keep in place in the rings and harder on the bases. In other words, because the scope is heavier, it takes more force to move it in the same direction as recoil.

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Got it.  Thought that was what you were getting at.  So low power variables are less about aesthetics and more about not destroying your scope or zero.
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They are also more typical on rifles in the 375 H&H above because other than being really cool, there aren't any animals on this fine continent that you "need" one for.  I will say that I have been going heavier and slower in my old age, both in my own personal attributes and those of the rifles I'm choosing, because (a) I don't like tracking as much as I used to think it was cool, and (b) I don't like bloodshot meat.  With the range most of the animals are shot with with these rifles, not to mention the fact that many times those animals in africa have sharp teeth or feet bigger than your head, you want to be able to pick them up quickly in the scope to be able to get an accurate shot off.  Just my $0.02.  Send a PM to user Glock and ask him what power he uses on his rigs in South Africa and why.  He'll have more experience with the heavy calibers than most all of us, I imagine.
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If I were selecting a scope for a 375H&H, I would be looking at something along the lines of 1-4x24, 1-5x24 or 1-6x24.

I am testing a Meopta Meostar R2 1-6x24 right now and I think it would be perfect for such a rifle.  6x is enough to reach pretty far out, while that bright illuminated dot at 1x is spectacularly fast.

There are other options of course, depending on your price range, but for $1500 I would be looking at either the Meopta R2 1-6x24 or the Vortex Razor HD 1-6x24.

Next step down would be the Leupold VX-6 1-6x24.

If you are primarily interested in low light, I would go with the Meopta Meostar R1 1.5-6x42 and not look back.

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I picked up a couple of Meostar 4-16x for my other rifles and am generally pleased.  Prefer the Swarovski Z3, but the differences is subtle.

Like the larger objective on the Meostart R1 1.5-6x42, which has been one of the detractors from the other low power scopes but raises some interesting options in addition to some mentioned above.



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There are no 4-12x scopes in the Meostar line-up. Are you sure those are not Meopro?
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Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

If I were selecting a scope for a 375H&H, I would be looking at something along the lines of 1-4x24, 1-5x24 or 1-6x24.

I am testing a Meopta Meostar R2 1-6x24 right now and I think it would be perfect for such a rifle.  6x is enough to reach pretty far out, while that bright illuminated dot at 1x is spectacularly fast.

There are other options of course, depending on your price range, but for $1500 I would be looking at either the Meopta R2 1-6x24 or the Vortex Razor HD 1-6x24.

Next step down would be the Leupold VX-6 1-6x24.

If you are primarily interested in low light, I would go with the Meopta Meostar R1 1.5-6x42 and not look back.

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What are your thoughts on the tracking/adjustments on that R2?  Glass as compared to Diaviari's, Z6, S&B?  I'm very interested, as there will be a couple more additions to the R2 lineup a little later this year that really appeal to me. 
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Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

There are no 4-12x scopes in the Meostar line-up. Are you sure those are not Meopro?

Make that Meostar R1 4-16X44


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Originally posted by tahqua tahqua wrote:

Before firing all pieces in the firearm system are at rest. When fired the gun recoils back thus "wanting" to leave the scope behind. A heavier scope is both harder to keep in place in the rings and harder on the bases. In other words, because the scope is heavier, it takes more force to move it in the same direction as recoil.



Correct.

IOW... inertia.

Scopes with greater mass means the scope rings have to arrest greater inertia.
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Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

If I were selecting a scope for a 375H&H, I would be looking at something along the lines of 1-4x24, 1-5x24 or 1-6x24.



Me too.

Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:


If you are primarily interested in low light, I would go with the Meopta Meostar R1 1.5-6x42 and not look back.


I second the notion of a good 1.5-6X42 as a "low light" alternative to the 24mm objective scopes, and I'm sure the Meostar is a good one. I've not used the Meostar in the field, but I do have 1.5-6X42s from Zeiss and S&B, and won't ever part with them.
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Originally posted by JGRaider JGRaider wrote:

Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

If I were selecting a scope for a 375H&H, I would be looking at something along the lines of 1-4x24, 1-5x24 or 1-6x24.

I am testing a Meopta Meostar R2 1-6x24 right now and I think it would be perfect for such a rifle.  6x is enough to reach pretty far out, while that bright illuminated dot at 1x is spectacularly fast.

There are other options of course, depending on your price range, but for $1500 I would be looking at either the Meopta R2 1-6x24 or the Vortex Razor HD 1-6x24.

Next step down would be the Leupold VX-6 1-6x24.

If you are primarily interested in low light, I would go with the Meopta Meostar R1 1.5-6x42 and not look back.

ILya


What are your thoughts on the tracking/adjustments on that R2?  Glass as compared to Diaviari's, Z6, S&B?  I'm very interested, as there will be a couple more additions to the R2 lineup a little later this year that really appeal to me. 
 
I'll publish my impressions when I am done with the testing.
 
So far, I think Meopta will do very well with this design.
 
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