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I posted hear a wile back and must say all you people are great.  Koshkin You were a big help.

I just placed an order for the IOR 2-12X32 with a IOR base from SWFA for my Remington 700 in 300 rum.

My question is does anyone make a scope ring alinement / reamer tools for 35mm rings.  or does any one have any suggestions on properly mounting the scope.  I sure would like some help with this.  I dont want to put the scope in any more stress than it has to be in on that canan.

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Don't know of anyone who makes 35mm scope ring reamers, but if you have a machine shop locally, you can have a lapping rod made pretty easily and probably inexpensively.  Just have someone turn you a 35mm, + 0 /- 0.025mm (+0 / - 0.001") dia. rod out of any steel and drill and tap a hole in the center and maybe one end of the rod to mount some sort of handle(s).  Use the same rod for initial alignment, then cover with lapping compound and work it back and forth in the lower ring halves until at least 75% of the i.d. of the rings clean up and you're done.  You can buy the lapping compound from a variety of sources, such as Brownells.

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Kokopelli Products makes an accurising kit for 35mm rings that includes the alignment bars and a lapping tool.

It is not cheap, but very well made.

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Thanks for the tip, Koshkin; good to know!  I wasn't aware that Kokopelli offered a kit for 35mm rings, probably because I've never had an occasion to lap 35mm rings.

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Thanks for the tips.  Rifledude I called the local machinest this morning.  he will make SS alignment bars and a lapping tool in his CNC for $75.  I just wish I had more than 1 scope to do.  But oh well a job is not worth doing if its not done right.  Koshkin thanks for the info. I allready gave the work order to the machinest, I do like to give the locals some biusness when I can.  And I can go pick up the parts this afternoon.
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$75 sounds extremely reasonable, cjhauser.  Good luck with your project!
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$15 for the steel and one hour laber at $60.  They look great.  He miked they with less then .002 runout and .001 dia.  After tax $80.00 I am very happy with them.  CNCs are great tools.  too bad they are like half a mil to buy one.  I did not even think about a machinest till you said it THANKS Rifledude.We have tons of them in the Reno area.

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Sorry I ment .0002 runout.  those CNCs are very accerate.  I sure do wish I could shoot with that persion.
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http://www.tpsproducts.com/products.php?cat=97

 

I'm obviously a little late on this thread, but can add another source of 35mm rings.

TPS rings are VERY well made. The two sets of 1" rings I own are perfect.

 

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cheaptrick its  ok.  The IOR scope comes with 35mm rings,  and they look very solid and well made.  I was looking for the tools to make sure the scope was mounted stress free.

 

Here is an update.  The base I recived is the wrong one but I am using it anyway.  I did not want the 20 MOA drop.

I mounted the base useing 20 in. lb.  That is the lowest stetting on my wrench.

next I mounted the rings.  I torched them in three steps. 20 in.lb 40in.lb then 65in.lb

the ring alinment was perfect. I could not belive it.  I have never seen that before. IOR must make there stuff to very high tollerances.

I probelbly did not need to lap the rings but I did anyway just to be sure.  I took less then 20 sec and I had more than 90% contact with 300 grit lapping compound.

I got a bit scared the scope would not fit but after plasing it in and ajusting the gap on both sides it does have just enough to hold it down.

There is a very small gap on both sides.  So guys dont go crasy with the lapping. 

 

As a side note.  1 and1/4 copper pipe is exactly 35mm OD so it will wook to lap 35mm rings.  and be a hell of a lot cheaper to use to mount one scope.  A one foot peace at home depot is $5.00

 

I would like to post a pic how do I do it.

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Interesting the 35mm ring situation has made me wondering if I wanted an IOR since Badger Rings are 34mm.
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Badger rings are very good, but they are not the only game in town.

TPS, US Optics, and Seekins Precision all make top notch 35mm rings that can compete with Badger.

ILya
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well I would not let who makes the rings stop me from buying an IOR 35mm scope.  The rings IOR give you look to be very well made I would say just as good as TPS, Badger, or anyone else.  So use the IOR rings and spend the $100.00 on ammo.   I can not say anything bad about the IOR I have it is a very good scope for a very good price.  And the scope and rings seem to be as sturdy and well made as anything eles I have seen.
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We have both TSR and TSR "W" in stock:

 

http://www.tpsproducts.com/categories.php?cat=96

 

I agree with cjhauser and don't let the rings stop you from buying an IOR....

 

Fantastic Scope....

 

MP-8 Rocks...

 

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Originally posted by cjhauser cjhauser wrote:

cheaptrick its  ok.  The IOR scope comes with 35mm rings,  and they look very solid and well made.  I was looking for the tools to make sure the scope was mounted stress free.

 

Yes Sir.

 I was merely adding another source of 35mm ring manufacturers to the list is all.

   

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cjhauser,

I would not use copper tubing as a lapping tool.  It isn't straight enough, nor will it likely be perfectly round.  Any tool used for lapping needs to be precision made, with as little runout as possible and held to a tight tolerance on diameter.  You almost cannot overlap rings to the point that they will no longer hold the scope firmly.  Lapping removes very little material, and there is an ample gap between the ring halves to get all the clamping force needed.  Since lapping increases the amount of contact surface between the rings and the scope tube, it holds the scope more securely with less screw torque required.



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