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Looking for real-world info on this "application".  Any "war stories"??  I am liking what I see, ballistically and pretty much cost-wise.  
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i take it your thinking about having one built??

 
you may consider the .338 fed as an alternative?


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Actually, I am thinking of having the 30-06 I have been playing with 1) rebored to 338-06 (that is my first choice, though a lot of people don't like reboring...I have a gunsmith who GUARANTEES at least as good accuracy as the original bore with 95% of rebores producing better accuracy, guarantees a new barrel at reduced cost of the rebore goes badly...no charge for the bad rebore, has a decent "wait time"), 2) thinking of rebarreling going from the 20" barrel on it now to a 30" barrel...which gives some really good long range ballistics with a 300gr bullet.  I have ALMOST completely decided on going with something in 338.  Am also considering getting a 338 Lapua, but ammo cost IS a factor.  
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why not go to a .35 whelen?? cheaper to reload or buy ammo for, the .35 whelen is readily available and you can shoot some heavy bullets with it too
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Well, it appears the .338-06 has a much wider variety of factory ammo and a larger range of bullets, IF I were to start reloading.  The 35 just doesn't seem to have as big a base.  Because of the availablility of a wider variety of bullets, there is some ballistic advantage to .338.  Other than that, there does not seem to be much difference.  
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Most bullets are made for .338 win or 340 Weatherby speeds.  That makes me want to question expandtion in the smaller powder cases.
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300 gr bullets in a 64 mm case is going to give you about 2000 fps -- sure you want that slow. why not down load a regular 338 mag works great.



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I say build it,  these kind of projects are a lot of fun, both the rifle and the reloading.  I built a 35 whelen on a savage action and its reasonably accurate and a light kicker.  The 338-06 should provide simular results as its magnum brothers 95% of the time, plus these less popular calibers make for great conversation.
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I have 1 hunting rifle, and it's a 338-06.
Thought on this for over a year, talked to a few hundred folks, most voted for the whelen because they'd heard of it but had no real world experience.
 
In the end, talking to those who had one or the other I went with the 338-06 for better velocities, flatter trajectory, more delivered energy, a myriad of available bullet choices.
 
215 grain Sierras at 2750 fps from a 23 inch barrel
225 Hornady interlocks at 2625 fps
250 Sierras at 2550 fps
 
Design criteria were;
Kill anything native to North America with 4 legs
400 yard real world service range
Ability to use it in ther brush  ( mine's a scout config with the mount machined as an integral part of the barrel )
Ease of reloading
 
I've used the 215 sierras to shoot a 5 shot 1000 yard 14 inch group from prone, but the impact berm is 36 feet tall and I took about 15 minutes to sketch the hold off/over diagram with a compass and calculator.  And with a 2x Leupold IER scope no less.
 
There's a reason this is my ONLY hunting rifle.  ")
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the thing that probably boosts the whelen is the fact that more than 2 company's make factory ammo for it, a square and weatherby are the only 2 company's im aware of that make .338-06 ammo, federal remington hornady nosler all make .35whelen ammo
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I stocked up on Federal 225 gr Trophy Bonded Bear claws a few years ago for the 35 Whelen, 2600Fps and 3375ft-lbs energy.  I have also loaded 250 gr hornady @ 2450fps and 225 gr Sierras @ 2700 fps.  The Whelen is easy on the shoulder as well as the 338-06 should be.  I already had a .338 Win/mag and thats why I decided on the 35 whelen. At the time I was reading alot of Boddington books and his words were what got me interested in the Whelen build, he truely had nothing but praise for the caliber.
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Originally posted by Kickboxer Kickboxer wrote:

Actually, I am thinking of having the 30-06 I have been playing with 1) rebored to 338-06 (that is my first choice, though a lot of people don't like reboring...I have a gunsmith who GUARANTEES at least as good accuracy as the original bore with 95% of rebores producing better accuracy, guarantees a new barrel at reduced cost of the rebore goes badly...no charge for the bad rebore, has a decent "wait time"), 2) thinking of rebarreling going from the 20" barrel on it now to a 30" barrel...which gives some really good long range ballistics with a 300gr bullet.  I have ALMOST completely decided on going with something in 338.  Am also considering getting a 338 Lapua, but ammo cost IS a factor.  
..................If I`m not mistaken, isn`t this the same rifle you just had cut down to a 20"?......If this one is the only `06 you have, I wouldn`t touch it. Buy yourself a new 338 rifle instead of converting over.
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Dan, personally, I'd rebarrel rather than rebore, regardless of what your smith told you.  Using a decent custom barrel blank, I can pretty much guarantee you'd have better accuracy going that route.  I think the .338-06 is a great choice, and you'd be set for anything in N. America at reasonable hunting distances.
 
Keep us posted on your progress with this project!
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I have to agree with Ted on this, I'd definitely go the new barrel route. 338-06 would seem to be a very useable cartridge for any game in the Americas as well. Keep us posted Dan.
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Everyone, thank you very much for the comments/suggestions.  I am doing some more testing with the 20" 30-06 ( I have 3 other 30-06's, so I am set with that caliber) and I am about convinced that rebarreling vs reboring is the right way to go.  However, IF I do rebarrel, it will go to 30in vs 20in.  
"At the office", I ran across some video of some testing done with 338-06 with 30" barrel with 300gr Sierra pushed to 2691fps.  Pretty impressive.  
Once again, THANK YOU for the input, it helps.  
A-Square, Nosler and Weatherby provide ammo and there are several custom reloading shops out there that do an excellent job.  
I believe 338-06 is going to enter my inventory in the very near future.
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you know could always buy the gear and "roll your own " as well
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I can't multi-task while reloading, so I gave it up.  Tempted every day to start loading again, but I just cannot cross the time barrier.  Maybe when my youngest goes off to college...
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i suppose, never good to reload when you cant keep total focus on the task, can be a little dangerous, especiall when you own a .458!
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I just solve that issue by putting my wife and daughter to work while I load!  I size and trim a bunch of cases when I have a couple hours to kill, then later, I have my wife prime cases while my daughter charges cases (after I verify powder weight) and hands me the charged case for bullet seating.  Nothing like spending quality family time together!Yippee
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Originally posted by RifleDude RifleDude wrote:

I just solve that issue by putting my wife and daughter to work while I load!  I size and trim a bunch of cases when I have a couple hours to kill, then later, I have my wife prime cases while my daughter charges cases (after I verify powder weight) and hands me the charged case for bullet seating.  Nothing like spending quality family time together!Yippee
 if i tried that my boys would blow up the house!Bricked
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Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

i suppose, never good to reload when you cant keep total focus on the task, can be a little dangerous, especiall when you own a .458!
You mean a shoulder fired HOWITZER don't you??????
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thats what that .700 nitro is, aka 8" gun for all you navy boys
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Neck up 30/06 to 338 or 35 and don't look back.  I have both.  Great rounds.
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Thanks all.  I think I am going to order a 338-06 barrel very soon.  
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