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Is it worth paying the extra money for a 30mm Tube over a 1" Tube?  What about side focus?  Does it make that much difference if a scope has focus or not.  I am looking at getting a Leupold VX III in a 4.5-14x50mm.  Will be shooting both long and short range.  Thanks for any help.
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Originally posted by Diggerdan4 Diggerdan4 wrote:

Is it worth paying the extra money for a 30mm Tube over a 1" Tube?  What about side focus?  Does it make that much difference if a scope has focus or not.  I am looking at getting a Leupold VX III in a 4.5-14x50mm.  Will be shooting both long and short range.  Thanks for any help.

 

What do you consider long range??

 

Typically, a 30mm tube is superior to a 1".

The 30mm gives you more elevation/windage adjustment to shoot long range. 

For deer hunting out to 200-300 yards, you wouldn't need a 30mm tube.

For 600 yards and beyond, I would go with a 30mm tube.

 

And yes, with that power range it would benefit you to have side focus or a parallax adjustment of some kind.  

 

Could you be a little more specific on what your going to be shooting and what ranges?? 

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I would consider Long range 250- 500Yards for deer and even longer for Antelope.  I will be hunting blacktail Deer along with Antelope.  The range I will be shooting will be from around 75 yards clear out to 600 yards.  I would guess the average shot would be 200-300 yards. 

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Check out the MP8 reticle and Bullet Drop Compensation that most manufactures have in their scopes today. The IOR MP8 has been the most friendly I used. Tried the Burris, Nikon and placed with Leupold Boone&Crockett.


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Lots of good information in Chris's Rifle school under that topic,. Basically 30 mm tubes allow larger erector sets. Thus a variable with a 30 mm tube can have something like  a range of 3x12 instead of just 3x9 as in a 1'" tube. The only Leo scope having a 4x erector set is their LPS, their 30 mm tubes only have 3x erectors and I guess they need the extra room inside for the side focus. Doesn't seem to bother zeiss however, they do it with a 1" tube. One would guess also that leo would be just be using 1" tube parts in their 30mm as a cost saving device. Personally I would go with their new 4.5x14 1" with the front AO.
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Leupold 30mm tube 4.5-14 has 100 moa internal adjustment significantly more than Leupold 4.5-14 with a 1 inch tube. The Boone and Crocket and Varmit reticles are quite helpful. Under 600 yds the 30mm tube probably wont make a difference but get out a little further and it will. The side focus is quite convenient and l like the scopes I own that have this feature.  The reticle is probably a more important issue and I like the varmit reticle but dont have one yet, My 4.5-14x50 30mm is a wide duplex range estimating model but the range estimating gap works like a hold over point and with my rifle the bottom of the gap is on at 600 yds. This is my favorite power range.

 

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Urimaginaryfrnd- That is good to know- is your wide duplex etc. a mil-dot and are using 308 168 BTHP around 2650? If so I'll check it out save a lot of time here.  thanks
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Anyone who thinks they are capable of hitting an Antelope at 600 yards is either irresponsible, a fool and has never hunted them. Want to see how far you should shoot? Put up a 9" pieplate at 100 yards and start shooting and moving back (no benchrests!).
When you cant hit it every shot, that's your limit. For 99% of shooters it's about 300 yards. Antelope are not hard to hunt, of the ones I shot the closest was 107 yards, the farthest 327. All measured before shooting with a laser and shooting with a tight military sling and a hiking stick. If I draw this year, I'm hunting with a 50 caliber round ball flint lock as I know a well selected hide will get me within 50 yards of one.My neighbor has killed 27 Antelope with an old 721 Remington in 30-06 with a Weaver K4 and Remington factory ammo.His "9"plate" limit is 200 yards and he's never shot one over 85 paces. I see the idiots every year with their magnum monsters and 6-20x56 mm scopes... mostly they shoot legs off elk and blame the guide. Watched one 3 years ago miss a standing broadside elk 3 shots a 125 yards resting over a pack with a 340 Weatherby and a huge 56mm euro wonder scope. The elk was exceptionally dumb. The guide's wife finally shot him (the elk) with a circa 1935 94 winchester 30-30! So much for magnum whatevers! If you want a 7mm get a 7x57 you'll be much happier and your ears and shoulder will thanks you.
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