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Hi all,

   I've been searching/researching the web so long my Head's about to explode!  I sure could use some help/suggestions from the good folks here at OT.  I am looking to mount an Optic (Vortex 2-7) one inch tube to a Leapers UTG 5th. Generation, quick detachable Picatinny-style double rail for my Saiga .308 Rifle with 16" barrel.

   I've looked at (on line) Seekins, Tally, Burris, DNZ, etc. etc. etc.    I'm willing to spend upwards of one hundred dollars (if needed) for a nice SOLID set of Rings.  If available, should I consider a "one piece" Ring set ?  DNZ makes what looks to be a nice one piece unit but, I'm not sure if it would fit on the UTG Picatinny mount.  Thank you for any help/suggestions.

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SixCats!

  
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Anyone ?

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I presume you have a UTG 5th gen side mount right?

Any decent 1 inch rings will work fine.

With the Vortex scope, you should be going for the lowest rings you can find.  The stock on those rifles was not designed with scoped use in mind.

Try this:
http://swfa.com/Warne-Maxima-Permanent-Attach-1-Rings-P9917.aspx

or this http://swfa.com/Vortex-Viper-HS-1-Rings-P51753.aspx

(looks like the same rings).

For the record, that UTG sidemount is likely to be the single most likely failure point in your setup.

With soviet-style side mounts, the quality of the mount plays a significant role, since it is a long lever acting against a small bearing surface.  UTG is not exactly known for making anything worthwhile, so you should watch out for problems.

ILya
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Hi ILya,

   Thanks you so very much for responding to my inquiry and providing me with some very useful "food for thought".  Yes indeed, I do have the 5th. Gen. Leaper UTG Quick Detach side mount.  I must admit, I too was wondering if this UTG unit would be "strong" enough to hold up on the .308 Saiga.  I bought this unit in part due to the many positive comments I've read from UTG users and because of the UTG's reasonable price.  This unit appears to fit well and appears to fit quite snug but, I too was wondering if it would be able to hold up (as you mentioned) due to it's "lever" seeming kind of.....well.....lets say not OVER built.  So ILya, could you suggest an alternative mounting system for Scoping the Saiga .308 (side mount or otherwise) ?  It's not like I have a lot of money invested in the UTG should a better system exist.  Thanks ILya.

Regards,
SixCats! aka Tom
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Hi all,

   ILya, (or members of OT)

       are you able to suggest an alternative mounting system ?  My UTG mount which I thought I had SNUGGED DOWN tight, slid right off the Saiga base!  Man, I'm glad I didn't find out the HARD way!
I've yet to try to make the UTG Mount (lever & screw) tighter to see if it will hold.  Still, I'm a bit uneasy about how this mount just slid right off and onto the ground.  I think I would like something a bit more positive/solid.  Thanks.

SixCats!
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There a few mounts there that respectable, although with any of them you need to make sure you adjust the locking lever properly.

I can dig in the drawers and see what I have.  I recall playing with one that was very sturdy and I think I still have it lying around somewhere.  I vaguely recall it was made by K-var, but I could be wrong.

ILya
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Hi ILya,

    Thank you once again for responding to my thread.  Please do let me know if you should come across that old mount, I am interested to know more.  Thanks ILya.

Regards,

SixCats!
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Yes, it is a K-var mount.  You can either buy it directly from them, or I can sell you mine since it is lying in the drawer collecting dust anyway.

ILya
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