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It is true.  One of the reasons target and varmint guns have heavy barrels.  I have an M40 profile .308 barrel and I have shot it 20 rounds and kept all 20 under an inch.  

Also small profile seem to be more finicky at time to find a good load than heavy barrels.  They vibrate more and are harder to find that sweet spot.  
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I don't recall ever killing more than three deer at once with a scoped rifle. Shotgun, yes. Rifle, no. 

I shoot three to test centerfire loads. Five or more for rimfire or to challenge myself.
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I have killed 2 deer with a rifle back to back, when they let us shoot 2 doe's a day here. 

Ah the glory days. 

One of the things I like about this remington is the barrel is a heavy contour, but the gun itself isn't overly heavy. 

For example. I have 2 reminton 700's. Both in Hogue stocks. 

A 270 BDL with a 22 in barrel. It has the bedding block Hogue stock. Then I have the 700 AAC-SD in 308 in the pillar bedded version. The 270 has a Nikon Monarch 4-16x50 BDC in steel Leupold rings and bases, the 308 has a Minox ZA5 3-15x42 in a DNZ mount. The 270 is considerably heavier. So much so I don't like to hunt with it. 

Then to make matters worse I have 2 Ruger carbines, 1 in 7mm-08, and one in 308. Both sport 16.5 in barrels. The 7mm is a 6 pound gun, the 308 is 5.75 pounds, without scope, sling and ammo. And I satisified my itch for a lever 30-30 last year by getting a 1971 Marlin. It's not very heavy either. 

If I am going to a shooting house, I don't mind a heavy gun, if I am hiking in carrying a climbing tree stand, my backpack and extra clothes, then I do. And sometimes in a shooting house, a 22 in barrel long action rifle is a little to long. 
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I've shot and dropped 4 deer in one string before under a depredation permit using an AR but for hunting I only need 1 at a time.... to much work cleaning and processing to do more than 1 at a time.  I normally donate the deer killed under the permit to the migrant workers on the farms.
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Well I was not able to get any IMR 4064 but I did score some BL-C(2) and some 178 Grain ELD-X bullets. 

I went ahead and got an electronic scale while I was at it. 

So I loaded these using 180 grain data, starting at 42 grains. I went up in .5 grain increments to 45. The max charge on 180's was 46. 

Those are some long bullets. 
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 I loaded the ELD-X and also some 168 NBT"s with the BL-C2 and went to the range yesterday. Results were dismal again. 

So this AM I took the gun down to the gunsmith with 5 boxes of diffeent ammo, and said please see if you can sight this in, or find out why I can't. 

The gunsmith asked me what the groups were like, I said 5 or 6 inches. He doesn't think I could be that bad a shot. I said, well, I shouldn't be, but everything I have shot out of it has grouped poorly, except the Fusion 165's. 

So he has those, some hornady custom 165's, AW 150, Federal MSR 150, and Core Lokt 150. I guess we shall see what happens. 

He asked me if how I sighted it in. I said I took it up the street to the indoor range and set it dead on with 150 Gr SST ammo at 25 yards. 
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