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Just picked up my first new bolt rifle, It's a Rem 700 SPS in 300 Win Mag with a 26" barrel. 1/10 Twist.

Is everyone still liking the IMR 4831, or is there a better place to start.
I see the Nosler book lists RL22 as the most accurate load for the 180's, and thought I would start with that, just wanted to see what's been working with you guys.

Dang...looks like most of the 180 loads are compressed, what's that do to your case life?


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its what i  shoot out of mine, i think im shooting like 72.5 gr of imr 4831 in my .300win mag. my .300 wby likes the stuff too.  and i use a 180gr sierra pro hunter.
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I went through about 5 powders and settled on H1000.  Gave the best accuracy in mine.
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Shot RL-22 out of mine with good results.  I have since gone to the 190 gr bullets, and am using RL-17 pushing it at 3000 fps.

My loads weren't compressed with the Hornady bullets and RL-22 with book loads.  If you go with Speer loads, it is compressed.  
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Originally posted by SVT_Tactical SVT_Tactical wrote:

I went through about 5 powders and settled on H1000.  Gave the best accuracy in mine.


when i started loading for the .300win mag i dont believe h-1000 was even available. if i ever get it back from my dad, im going to try some of the stuff i have now in it, like h-1000 imr 7828 and rl19 and rl22.
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Thank's guys, I have some RL19 and RL 22.....so I think I'll grab up some H1000, and Imr4831 then just start loading and see what happens... Right now I have no brass, so it might take a while, but I'll let you know how it turns out.  Also in the middle of moving the family to Washington State....busy times.

Helo18...190gr. at 3000 sounds pretty nice, what barrel and twist are you running for that?
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Originally posted by GetSome GetSome wrote:


Helo18...190gr. at 3000 sounds pretty nice, what barrel and twist are you running for that?

It is a Ruger M77 with a 24" barrel and a 1/10 twist.  That is hand loads.  68.9 grains of RL-17.  Above what Hornady shows, so be careful loading it.  Back off and work up no matter what powder and stop when you see pressure signs.

I haven't seen any pressure signs using that load yet, so I may keep going up.  Hornady book shows 68.7 gr RL-17 max for the 190 BTSP Hornady bullet out of a 25" barrel @ 3000 fps.  

Before I switched I was pushing the 190 at 2950 or a little better with 74.1 gr of RL-22. 


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RL22 is a great powder for the 300 winny.
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Nice Helo....I am still pretty new to reloading, but of course will be working up to loads in that range, and would like to stay away from max loads. If I can get an accurate load for now I would be more than happy.

Have some friends that shoot .300 and .300 weatherby and RL22 has worked well for them, especially with the barnes bullets.

Right now I feel like a little kid, can barley sleep at night, biggest problem is finding the time to just get out and shoot, will probably be two weeks before i actually get the opportunity to take the new rifle out.  Thanks again fella's.


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My Sako M75, in .300 WM prefered IMR 4350 with 180gr pills.
 
That said, RL22 seems to me a great place place to start. Most of my friends found the best results with this.  
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I've had good results with with IMR 4350, and 190gr SMKs.
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IMR 4350          +1 Very versital powder.
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Yeras ago when I had a 300 Win Mag I used IMR-4350.  No longer have it but I do have e Weatherby (300) and it shoots IMR-7828 very well.

 
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Each gun is different but I had great results with RL22 and H4350.  Good results with H4831sc and H1000.
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Wow...thanks for the responses, sounds like I need to add the IMR 4350 to the mix. 

Now I need to settle on some bullet's, I was thinking about Nosler Accubond, I think it will work well paper or hunting.....any suggestions.....probly just try to work up one bullet at a time.....I will eventually add other bullets, like the 190 SMK, just want somthing with a good BC and work good on game.
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You may want to keep H-1000 in the back of your mind if you step up to the 190 gr. or above bullets. I think bigdaddy uses it for 210 gr. bergers. I use it in my .300 Wby for 185 gr. and above bullets, with good results. Just another powder to keep an eye on. No wonder my powder cabinet is blowing out at the seams. There are so many good ones now.
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I have been getting really good results with the RL-17 pushing 190s in the 300 Win. I doubt I will ever go back to 180s.  I am liking the heavy bullets too much.  Better than RL-22.  I don't have any H1000 to try though.

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Originally posted by GetSome GetSome wrote:

Wow...thanks for the responses, sounds like I need to add the IMR 4350 to the mix. 

Now I need to settle on some bullet's, I was thinking about Nosler Accubond, I think it will work well paper or hunting.....any suggestions.....probly just try to work up one bullet at a time.....I will eventually add other bullets, like the 190 SMK, just want somthing with a good BC and work good on game.


I have had good luck with the Accubond in 180 and 200 (BC .588) grains.  Believe it or not the Berger VLD Hunting bullets are target bullets that perform well on game.  I shoot the 185 VLD Hunting (BC .549) out of my 300 ultra.  I had a good extended-range one-shot harvest of a bull this year with that bullet.  Barnes tripleshock bullets also have excellent on-game performance, but suffer from comparatively low BCs.
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The hornady A-maxes in both 178gr. and 208gr. work well in the .300 winny. Both are good for putting holes in what ever you choose too as well.
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Anytime your concern is BC you need to try Berger. You can load lighter grain bullets (if you prefer) and get better than average BC. Everything I have loaded in Berger has preformed as good or better than anything I run for comparison. My initial concern was, They are just selling a target round and calling it a hunting round. But, the proof in in the gut pile. "NOTHING" has walked away.
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Originally posted by Sgt. D Sgt. D wrote:

Anytime your concern is BC you need to try Berger. You can load lighter grain bullets (if you prefer) and get better than average BC. Everything I have loaded in Berger has preformed as good or better than anything I run for comparison. My initial concern was, They are just selling a target round and calling it a hunting round. But, the proof in in the gut pile. "NOTHING" has walked away.

i could say the same thing about every other brand of boolit ive used as well, sierras keel stuff too! ive downed a lot of deer and between my dad and me a lot of elk with the cheapo green box. i dont really understand why people get so wrapped up about b.c. any way, s.d is more important in my book. when your shooting a any of the fast .30's your drop out to 500yds isnt much. knowing your rifle and the load you shoot and shooting it well trumps all imo.Big Grin
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My go to bullet is also the hornady 190gr in my the 300wby, rifle seems to like RL22 with Imr 7828ssc as a close second.

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S.D. means almost nothing to me at this point. Bullet designs vary so much anymore that I don't feel S.D. is an indicator of penetrating power, or much else anymore. If all you are looking at is cup, and core, soft point bullets, than ok, but bring your highest S.D. 30 cal. cup, and core bullet you can find, and I'll out penetrate it. I think bullet design, expanded diameter, and weight retention play a far bigger role. For example, If you take a Berger 185gr. with an S.D. of .279, and a Barnes TTSX 180gr. with an S.D. of .271, The S.D. of the Berger "should give it a very slight penetration advantage, but I assure you I know which would penetrate deeper without even firing them, and it has nothing to do with S.D.

On the B.C. side of the argument, I guess it depends on how far you think you'll shoot. If your shots are generally inside 200 yards, I see no reason why you can't shoot 240 gr. round nose softpoints at 2500 fps with a b.c. of -.35, and be just as well off as shooting a 210 Berger, and having a b.c. over .6. If you need to make that shot out to 500 yards, I worry less about the drop which will be the same from day to day, as I do the wind, which here can be nothing, or a lot. That would be where b.c. would drive MY decision.
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Originally posted by trigger29 trigger29 wrote:

You may want to keep H-1000 in the back of your mind if you step up to the 190 gr. or above bullets. I think bigdaddy uses it for 210 gr. bergers. I use it in my .300 Wby for 185 gr. and above bullets, with good results. Just another powder to keep an eye on. No wonder my powder cabinet is blowing out at the seams. There are so many good ones now.
 
I use H1000 for 200+gr bullets and h4831sc for 165/168. both use mag primers. I am testing for a buddy right now with some LONG 200gr bullets using H4831SC to help with getting more case capasity as H1000 will not get close to what the load should do with it being so compressed.
 
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What are you trying to achieve Bigdaddy?  I've used H1000 compressed with decent results.
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