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What's everyone's opinion about the Remington 300 Ultra Mag. At Level I it's a .30-06, at Level II it's a 300 Win Mag, and at Level III it's delivering more energy than a 300 Wby Mag. Gosh, this is three guns in one. If it's true this might be a good thing uh?
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Mighty expensive to shoot, mighty easy to develop an anticipitory flinch.

For some things, it might be necessary.  In North America, I can't imagine what would require it.

I have a friend with one, it sucks to shoot at the bench next to him (his has a brake.)  He said he lit it off once without hearing protection (the large, fast bullet - Level 3, you call it) and was nauseous and disoriented for about an hour.

Personally, I like a good 300Wm and have never flt under-gunned.  Then again, I ain't shooting at plate-steel dangerous game from 1,200 yards out.
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I wouldn't consider the .300 RUM if I didn't reload.
At the time I had mine, quality ammo was scarce. That may have improved in the past 4 years or so.
 
Plus 1 on RC's post about a .300 Winny.  
Mine was braked too and DAY-UM it was LOUD!!!
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A buddy of mine has one.  It shoots good.  I like the fact it's based on an unbelted case.
 
But, as was mentioned, ammo is expensive, and it doesn't do anything a regular "non supercharged" .300 Win Mag won't do at lower cost, less recoil, and with less powder consumption, until you get to distances you probably shouldn't be shooting at game animals anyway.  At reasonable shot distances, neither you nor any game animal will notice the difference in terminal effects between a .300 RUM and a .300 Win Mag.  Besides ammo cost, the Win Mag has better ammo availability in more places.  If you reload, heck, why not, but if you don't, I would get the Win Mag.  It doesn't look as sexy on paper, but it gets the job done just as well.
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Not to mention the throat wear from that round is tremendous.
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The reason for owning a Rum is to obtain maximum velocity and energy, I can't see owning one and using level 1 or level 2 ammo, to me it defeats the purpose of having it in the first place.
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I think when your say level I, II, and III your talking about the Remington 300RUM "Power Level" ammo??

For what it's worth, my bother has a 300RUM (Rem M700 APR) and he loves it for longer shots where we hunt on the west coast and the occasional hunting trip to Colorado. The rifle is magna-ported and he hand loads too using TTSX bullets. I wouldn't use it for a "bench rifle" but for hunting, it's a very nice tool to have.
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 I would get one if I needed a hot .30 cal.
 I would get a long, heavy one with a stock that fit me very well.
 I would load fairly heavy bullet weights for it;- 180 grains and up only.
 I would not put a muzzle break on it, nor Magna-Port it unless I were already completely deaf and never planned to shoot it in the presence of anyone I cared about.
 
...and I would pet it and caress it and I would name it George and it would never want for lack of love...


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Originally posted by RONK RONK wrote:

 
...and I would pet it and caress it and I would name it George and it would never want for lack of love...
OK Abominable snow man..... It's real name is Daffy. Roll on Floor Laughing
You been watching some old cartoons lately?
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Originally posted by RONK RONK wrote:

 
 
...and I would pet it and caress it and I would name it George and it would never want for lack of love...
This happens before you pull the trigger and get all the noise and recoil, I assume. That is my experience every time I shoot a hot .30............which seems to be alot lately.
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Originally posted by RONK RONK wrote:

 
 I would not put a muzzle break on it, nor Magna-Port it unless I were already completely deaf and never planned to shoot it in the presence of anyone I cared about.
 


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You been watching some old cartoons lately?
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 Actually, yes I have been watching some old cartoons fairly recently.
 
I'm glad you caught the connection. Those who didn't must think I'm losing it!Loco
 
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I loved those old cartoons. I still think about Marvin, Foghorn, Daffy, Bugs, Elmer, Yosemite, Wile E, and the Road Runner. Those were some really good cartoons. Anytime I hear Acme, it brings back fond memories. That little mushroom cloud that rose up when Wile E fell off a cliff. Roll on Floor Laughing
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They were funny cartoons, this crap today is, well, crap.

300 RUM.  If you need the biggest perhaps.  What will a guy do if they come out with a larger .30 cal?
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If you do want a 300RUM, I recommend surfing the used gun sites, many, MANY of these come up for sale: slightly used, good prices.
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I like the idea of the RUMs, in general. I have been pondering getting one of the 300RUMs that are floating around at reasonable prices, blueprinting and rebarrelling it as a looooong-barreled 338 EDGE with a cutrifled custom barrel and dropping it in a nice McMillan or Manners tactical-style stock with adjustable LOP and cheekpiece. It would need a high-powered variable scope of some kind, maybe a Swaro Z5 or Z6 with the Ballistic Turret. Seems like this would be a nice setup for sniping at game in far west Texas from the edge or side of a mesa, and a little less radical than a 338-378. And before I get smacked around too much, I understand and agree with all the caveats about long-range hunting. Man, I can see just about forever out there! And Berger is making 338 VLDs now I hear...
 
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I LOVE my Sendero 300 RUM.  I am a handloader and find the cartridge flexability nice.  As far as recoil goes:  My 11 lb. Sendero with full-power loads is nothing to fear.  I had a light stainless/synthetic Savage 30-06 that tortured my shoulder, and my RUM is nowherer near that.  Sporter 300 RUMs and 300 winnies I've shot had pretty comparable recoil.
 
I haven't seen excessive throat wear out of my rifle.
 
My RUM gets great velocities out of big, slick bullets.  It is exceptionally accurate.
 
I dial my drop with my RUM, but if I didn't, I would probably load it REALLY fast with a light Barnes and have a really long maximum point blank range.
 
Some drawbacks:  You will go through a lot of powder loading for the RUM.  Factory ammo is expensive.  Big cartridge = big rifle.
 
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I have a winchester model 70 300 win mag and it is more than enough to handle any game that I have seen, its probably a little to for any thing less than a big whitetail.  Unless you are having hog problems like we are then the bigger the bullet the better I say.  
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I have a winchester model 70 300 win mag and it is more than enough to handle any game that I have seen, its probably a little to big for any thing less than a big whitetail.  Unless you are having hog problems like we are then the bigger the bullet the better I say.
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Originally posted by SD Dog SD Dog wrote:



300 RUM.  If you need the biggest perhaps.  What will a guy do if they come out with a larger .30 cal?
30-378WBY!!
I need one!
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Yeah, but you are special. 

Elaborating, if this is going to be your first .30 mag, like RC said, you can find a lot of them with low miles for lot cheaper than new.  If you have been around the magnum game, it can be a good cartridge.  The guy I help harvest wheat traded up from a 300 WM to the 300RUM but it wasn't his first gun.  Heck, I have heard of guys hunting dear with .375 H&H Mags and even 450 Lotts!!!  Yikes
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I have had the .300 RUM since they came out with it.  I love the gun.  Like everyone is saying if I didn't reload myself it would be to expensive to shoot.  I actually enjoying shooting this rifle at long distances.  The only thing I would do different would be not to put on the muzzle break.  It is to loud with it on and kicks up a lot of dust.

I used it on moose, elk and deer hunts so far.  I have loaded it with 165 grain to 200 grain bullets.  They all work well so far.  I'll admit it's a bit much for deer but dead is dead and it ruined no more meat then other caliber rifles.

I don't have a lot of rifles but the .300 RUM fills the picks up where my .270 WSM leaves off.  
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Originally posted by SD Dog SD Dog wrote:

Yeah, but you are special. 

Just because my "plinking rimfire" is a .300 mag, doesn't make me special...........but then again, I always wanted to be special.
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Well, IMO the 300 RUM can have some inherent problems
 
 
The 300 RUM is overbore and can have problems.  I know that many of the 300 RUM owners are saying "What! Mooner" but I reload for one and it is a little tricky and the extra power is unnecessary IMO.  By contrast the 300 win mag is well tested, tried and true and a breeze to reload for, not to mention that is has significantly less recoil and muzzle blast.  It can be loaded and shot without muzzle brakes in a weight gun that can be carried easily.
 
Now the 338RUM is a different story.  It is not overbore and sends it's pills downrange at an acceptable velocity (225's at 3100 fps and 250's at 3000 fps).  It still has the tremendous recoil and muzzle blast but you get those heavy bullets for compensation.  That makes it a better long range gun. 
 
Guess you could say that I am on the other side of the ledger
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my question is how much powder is blown out of the case and down the barrel unburned?? the 7mm ultra is the king of throat erosion. in my opinion the .338rum is the one with the most value or useful gain.
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