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Guess I'm jumping on since my state legalized suppressors finally and I reload....can use the suppressor on 2 other rifles as well...not looking for SBR.

For targets mostly, short to medium range at best looking for optics choices.

I like the idea of the Acog LED 4 but that's like 1100 for a blackout specific red dot. Considered Leupold vxr with TMR 3-9...want some mag but would love to use both eyes open as well. Vortex strike eagle? US optics 1-6? Don't want to mess with adding a magnifier to a red dot.


Bottom line, any suggestions for around 1k or under? Thanks
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Mag range on that caliber is very personal.  Rather than assume, can you specify if you will be running subsonics and/or supersonics; and if both, will you zero on which?

My 300BLK wears a Vortex gen2 1-6.  I like lots of drop on the reticle (because subs literally fall from the sky) and zero my supers on the horizontal, and have my 100, 150, and 200 dope on a sticker on the stock.

I've run 2-10 on blackouts and 3-9s, even ACOGs, never red dots.  (I don't like red dots on subsonic blackouts because the dope is so wild.)  If you run one setup exclusively (supers or subs), keeping it all straight is easy; however, if you run both on the same gun/scope, I'd recommend something to not get lost.  I use a sticker on the stock with an image of the reticle and write in super on one side and sub on the other, then mark the spot on the reticle sticker that corresponds to that distance.

Editing because I didn't answer the singular question posed, sorry!  The SS3-9 would be a good choice for all-around.  I would avoid caliber-specific reticles as they are never perfect and often very imperfect.  I like almost any reticle but a duplex, I simply need fixed reference points (needs to be FFP, obviously) and work out the drop on the range. A christmas tree-type reticle is ideal, but needs to be well executed (meaning not too small at the bottom of the mag range and not too big at the top.)

Probably my favorite scope run on a blackout was a 2.5-10 IOR with MP8 reticle, it was about perfect.  My singular complaint was the tunneling the scope did at the bottom, I sold it for that reason - stupidly.

All these considerations are for subsonic rounds.  If shooting supers exclusively (not sure why anyone would do that), all this goes away and get the scope you like best.


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Thanks for the input..plan on 115 super and 220 subs...want to keep to those weights exclusively to minimize variables.
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Solved my own problem I guess.....

Subsonic - moving my aimpoint pro to it since it has a quick mount.

Super - Leupold Vx-R Patrol 3-9x40 with illuminated TMR, mil/mil
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Red dot IMO is a bad choice for subs. You zero at 50 yards and at 100 you have already dropped 6 inches at 150 20 inches, at 200 43 inches. You "need" somthing u can dial dope into or habe a good reticle with a decent amount of hold over points.

I have 3 of them. Two ars and a bolt gun. 1 ar and the bolt gun are dedicated subs. The other AR is dedicated supers. Sub ar wears a SS hd 1-4x and the bolt wears a Burris xtr2 2.5-10x with a 20 moa mount. I have enough elevation adjustment to dial 500 + yards into that baby.   

Subs are fun especially with the suppressor. My bolt gun sounds like a spring pellet gun, it is crazy quiet.
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I spent some time playing with a 300 Blackout (I built one for my brother) and I did not like how it worked with the red-dot at all.

Honestly, I think for both subsonic and supersonic loads something with the magnification topping out at 6x or so would be your best bet.  The trajectory of different loads varies greatly, so I would go with a reticle that has a mil or MOA scale than something caliber specific.  With this caliber I like to hold over with the reticle and only use the turrets if you need to change zero for different loads.

SWFA SS 1-6x24 is a good choice.
Athlon Cronus 1-6x24 that I am currently testing is proving out quite good (and pretty similar to the SS in terms of overall performance).
Burris XTR 1-8x24 should be a nice option, but I am not sure if it s out yet.

If you like SFP scopes, Sightron S-tax 1-7x24 often gets overlooked, but it is a pretty competent design and the Mil-hash reticle is quite usable for the Blackout.

I am also experimenting with Nikon 1.5-6x42 for this application, but the jury is still out.  I am mixed on the reticle and I had a bad experience with the original scope I looked at.  I have a replacement in my hands now, but I have not spent enough time with it yet.

Another good option would be one of the tweener scopes and there are really nice ones out there now: Razor HD LH 1.5-8x32 and Leica ER5 1.5-8x32.  I have the Razor and I am quite impressed with it.  I expect to look at the Leica soon enough as well.

It really comes down to what you want to do with it.  If you will be spending a lot of time in low light, than a 24mm objective might be too small and stepping up to a 32mm may be worthwhile.

If you really want the option of having 1x available and low light is a bit less of a priority, then the options that offer 1x on the low end are your bet bet.

ILya
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