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A freind of mine who does not have internet access right now has been offered a good deal on a Savage 111 in one of  three caliber 270/308/30-06.He called and asked me which caliber,the gun will be used for pig hunting and and some target shooting and possibly whitetale in Texas.My answer was "you can't go wrong with any of those calibers".I know there are legions of fans here for these calibers so have at it speak your mind and thanks for any reply's

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30-06 would be a good cal for all around and hog hunting etc. Any of these would be, so it boils down to what type of ammo is more readily available in your area. I am just a 30 caliber nut. Nothing at all against a 270 though. So if that is the more readily available ammo go for it. 
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Thanks Cyborg,ammo is not an issue my freind just agonizes over stuff like this,you should have seen him when he bought his boat I screamed at him"just get the freaking Whaler!"Which he did and hasn't regretted it 20 years later I guess that'swhy he'sasking me this question.I personally shoot a 06 with no complaints every hog has been a one shot kill,keep it coming.
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  Gd' mornin',ff. 
 
  You say your friend has been offered those 3 cartridge choices in a model 111(long action).  The .308Win should be a model 11(short action).  If he had a choice of the model 11 also,that is what I'd go with.  If not I'd go with the 111 in .30-06.  I like the .270Win(have one)but the .30-06 or .308 would be a better all-around choice IMHO.  Happen to know which 111/11 configuration he is being offered?
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 30-06 because of the variety of factory loads, varmint to big game and it is readily availiable almost every where.
 308 because well just because.
 270 I never shot one so realy don't know but I would throw 260 rem. or the 25 06 in to the mix with it all 3 are proven calibers for what you are using the rifle for.
 Almost forgot don't let anyone talk him out of the Savage IMO for a factory production gun it is the best out of the box, also if he buys one tell him to get a blind mag because he will want to replace the tupperware stock and dbm's are not very commom with the after market stock makers. Actually it is easier to upgrade from the factory than it is later on for the 111.
 Ask this same question over on www.savageshooters.com


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.30-06 because i  hate the .270
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I prefer short action so I would go with the 308. 
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with the amount of factory ammo availible for the 308 that i have seen I'd have to go with it.  Not saying that the other two dont' have a lot of choices but i have actually seen the offerings for 308
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Originally posted by rjtfroggy rjtfroggy wrote:

the tupperware stock
Big Smile

I really like my Savage .22 but the standard stocks are a joke. I'd never own one on a hunting rifle. I'd go with the .308 Win because that round is more accurate than .30-06. But none of them are bad.


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Those are all three very fine rounds.  .308 does usually have the edge in "inherent accuracy," but it's hard to beat the versatility of the good ol' -06.  Everyone should own at least one.
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If used properly, you won't be able to tell the difference on game with any of the 3.  I have a .270 and love it.  Never failed me.  All three offer premium ammunition right off the self if your friend is not a reloader.  Since you have an '06 and he might be hunting with you, wouldn't hurt if he had the same chambering.  If either one of you forget ammo, can borrow from the other.








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30-06. While some say .308 has an "inherent accuracy" advantage, that is ONLY because it adapts well to the "middleweight" to lightweight bullets.  What is the topped out weight for .308 is a middleweight for 30-06.  Bullet weights were "downsized" for 30-06 because of recoil.  Give it a bullet in the 220-240 grain weight, load it up with a 2800+fps powder load, and it will exceed anything .308 can ever hope to achieve. 
However, "heavy" bullets for 30-06 are limited at this time (perhaps the world is beginning
to wake up) so we continue to have to suffer the degraded performance. 
That said, nothing against the .308, still a very fine caliber, if its limitations are understood. 
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I will put in a vote for the 270.  Somewhat to bug Pyro, but I really love that round.  I have a 270 and it is probably my most accurate rifle.  It will take deer fine.  I shoot elk with mine.  Great round.  If not that, then my #2 goes to the 308 Win because I don't have one.
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.30-06


Off the shelf ammo is cheaper and a wider variety of bullet weights are factory loaded for you. 

I love .308's but if your friend has no internet access, he's either got to load rounds himself or buy what's on the shelf. For .308 in my area of Texas that's 150 grain, or 168 grain when you can find it. My local academy has .30-06 from 150 grain to 220 grain right on the shelf.

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Thanks everyone for the reply's,300 S-W you are right Model 11 short action,111long action I have a call in to my freind about this,he did say it is one the pakage deals.Pyro,how come you hate the 270? I will post when he calls me back,later.
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personal preference, i really like the .280 and the .30-06 better, you get way more choices in bullets and weights. plus everybody has a .270win the .270wsm on the other hand is very cool.
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the good ole' 30-06 ..plethora of ammo and versatility..
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I'm going to go against the grain, and say .270. First off, it bugs pyro. Second, I hate the 30-06 as much as pyro hates the .270. It just seems everyone thinks you're nothing if you don't have an -06..........and I don't. Third the .270 will shoot flatter, and at ranges beyond 2-300 will about hold with the -06 in energy. There are several premium loads for the .270, so I think the ammo availability aspect is bogus. I don't think there was any animal that was shot with a .270 that didn't know it wasn't hit with an -06. On the other hand, there are much heavier bullets available for the 30 calibers. If short ranges, and heavy game are in the works, then.............UH, .300 Win., because I just can't say -06, even if it is a great choice.
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You dare defy the power of the .06 side?



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'06...... perfect round for the "one gun" owner/hunter!!!
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Originally posted by trigger29 trigger29 wrote:

I'm going to go against the grain, and say .270. First off, it bugs pyro. Second, I hate the 30-06 as much as pyro hates the .270. It just seems everyone thinks you're nothing if you don't have an -06..........and I don't. Third the .270 will shoot flatter, and at ranges beyond 2-300 will about hold with the -06 in energy. There are several premium loads for the .270, so I think the ammo availability aspect is bogus. I don't think there was any animal that was shot with a .270 that didn't know it wasn't hit with an -06. On the other hand, there are much heavier bullets available for the 30 calibers. If short ranges, and heavy game are in the works, then.............UH, .300 Win., because I just can't say -06, even if it is a great choice.

I am going to side with trigger on this one.  I would take my 270 any day over the 06.  If I want a 30 cal, I will go straight to my 300 WM.  I love the 270 and I would say it will take anything a -06 will.


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Well it looks like the 270 is gonna win.Probably beause his Dad has a 270 reloading set up gathering dust in his shop.Either way he won't go wrong with any of the three.I shoot a 06 because it happend to be sitting on the rack at the gun store and it was the only left hand bolt gun they had in the store I would have bought it no matter what caliber it was.

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Originally posted by fishingfool fishingfool wrote:

Well it looks like the 270 is gonna win.Probably beause his Dad has a 270 reloading set up gathering dust in his shop.

 
As good a reason as any.  I've used all 3 calibers, all worked equally well.
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Bullet selection and shot placement are a lot more valuable in this arguement than anything else.
 
For long-range shooting, the .270 is a bit behind when it comes to the number of aftermarket match bullets with good BC, more than enough good hunting bullets for it though.
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