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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote blacktails Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August/03/2010 at 19:43
Originally posted by gcp gcp wrote:

That's why I broke down & ordered the 3x9 SS. Yes it ended up costing me approx. $300 more but it's one hell of a lot of scope for $500.
 
I'll wait it out for the Viper.  I'm not in a rush, I was just pumped to get it.  That 3-9 SS is a heck of a scope from the glowing reviews I've read.  I've been pretty tempted to get one of them though I don't have a need for it right now.  I've got to sell off a couple of scopes before I get anything else though. 
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Looks like a price drop on some of the other V-Plex reticle scopes too.

Which Vortex Viper would you get for a 300 Wby Mag?

3.5-10x50 for $279.99
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4-12x40 for $279.99
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Originally posted by Vermin93 Vermin93 wrote:

Looks like a price drop on some of the other V-Plex reticle scopes too.

Which Vortex Viper would you get for a 300 Wby Mag?

3.5-10x50 for $279.99
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4-12x40 for $279.99

what kind of conditions do you hunt in?? i have a 3x9 on my .300wby, but i hunt in dense forest.
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I haven't hunted anywhere with it yet, but I'm planning a New Mexico elk hunt and an African plains game hunt.  
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i would take the smaller of the two then.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Vermin93 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August/03/2010 at 20:49
What about the comment by ILya about tunnel vision with the 4-12x40 Viper?  Would that steer you towards the 3.5-10x50 instead?  
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote pyro6999 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August/03/2010 at 21:01
for me when i hunted elk, i pushed a lot of timber day in and day out in the mountains of western wyoming. i never took a shot over 100 yds. now that said, ive never hunted new mexico and certainly not africa. for me i would be looking for something like 2x7 or a 2.5x8 or even a 3x9 like a zeiss conquest.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Scott_at_Vortex Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August/03/2010 at 21:11
Originally posted by powderburn powderburn wrote:

Such is a common problem with goods produced over seasor even a lot of domestic companies today. It's like when you find a pair of nike's that really feel good to you and you wear them out, good luck finding a pair just like them. I've had problems in the past where my old bushnell binocs had the rubber eyecup dry rot. You can call in the model # and s/n along with pics and measurements but the pair you finally get will almost certainly not fit like the originals. That's one of the reasons I still like Leupold because even if they are not the very latest cutting edge they have a nice product and they have the history to go with their life time warranty. I wish Vortex the best as they had some seemingly nice stuff to offer. Hope this doesn't mean what was alluded to in budperm's post.
  You guys are so funny sometimes going off on tangents. We are simply updating the line and thats it( I honestly mean that in a nice way and seriously I am grinning while I type this). Hopefully you dont take that comment the wrong way.  We have no problems what so ever with the scopes, getting them built for us, getting the materials,etc.... They are great scopes and did a great job for us ,but we feel it is time for an upgrade. Feel free to contact me with any questions. I am out at the NRA Whittington Center this week so I may be a little slow to answer, but i will get to it.


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 Just picked up on this thread. And I ordered one. Was going to buy one anyway. This way I save several bucks!
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Good to hear from you Scott.  Hope your having a safe trip and thanks for setting some minds at ease.  Do you think Vortex will continue to offer a low end variable like the 2-7 but in a different variation or has that not done that well?
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Well I sent my Nikon Buckmaster 4.5-14 in on trade to SWFA today .  hoping i will the viper 6.5-20x44 target dot.  There out of stock on it so hopefully not to long of a wait.
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Scott, Sorry to go off on a "tangent" it was really a poor attempt to be allagorical. I like the idea of Vortex and while I don't have any of your products yet The ones I have handled have been impressive in their price range.
   I see vortex as offering a good product and trying to build a reputation as having great CS. A earlier poster had made a comment about Black & Decker changing suppiers and maybe that was what was ocurring here. My point was if you want to build a reputation as a long standing supplier of quality products that last a lifetime then B&D is probably not the business model you want to follow. B&D make decent hand tools in their market range but to be truthful over the past 20 years they have gone to producing throw aways. I have a few of their tools as I don't use them often and it's not a disaster if one gives it up after a few years of service so I buy them because they are cheaper and probably will meet my needs. I consider Bushnell in the same way in scopes. They have some nice products and I have a couple that I have had for years. However I know in my heart if they ever give it up then they are pretty much done or if they are replaced I would expect my scopechiefs which were the top pf the line in their day to be replaced with a scopechief which today is a so-so product. See the thread Bummed on Bushnell to see what I'm talking about. It's a shame they squander their reputation like they do when the elite scope they offer are pretty decent stuff.
Vortex has some nice stuff, I would urge you to keep your base product line pretty much intact and work on improving value thru better internal components and small incremental improvements. I think long term this will serve you better to establish your company as a long term player. I know a lot of people on this forum like to bash Leupold but this describes why many of us have stuck with them. Well that and the fact that we grew up looking at Jack Slacks custom rifles festooned across the pages of the gun rags of course all of them wearing Leupolds. One of the great marketing campaigns of all time imho. Good luck and I wish Vortex well. Just put a gloss finish on a few of the basic models would you.
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Originally posted by powderburn powderburn wrote:

Scott, Sorry to go off on a "tangent" it was really a poor attempt to be allagorical. I like the idea of Vortex and while I don't have any of your products yet The ones I have handled have been impressive in their price range.
   I see vortex as offering a good product and trying to build a reputation as having great CS. A earlier poster had made a comment about Black & Decker changing suppiers and maybe that was what was ocurring here. My point was if you want to build a reputation as a long standing supplier of quality products that last a lifetime then B&D is probably not the business model you want to follow. B&D make decent hand tools in their market range but to be truthful over the past 20 years they have gone to producing throw aways. I have a few of their tools as I don't use them often and it's not a disaster if one gives it up after a few years of service so I buy them because they are cheaper and probably will meet my needs. I consider Bushnell in the same way in scopes. They have some nice products and I have a couple that I have had for years. However I know in my heart if they ever give it up then they are pretty much done or if they are replaced I would expect my scopechiefs which were the top pf the line in their day to be replaced with a scopechief which today is a so-so product. See the thread Bummed on Bushnell to see what I'm talking about. It's a shame they squander their reputation like they do when the elite scope they offer are pretty decent stuff.
Vortex has some nice stuff, I would urge you to keep your base product line pretty much intact and work on improving value thru better internal components and small incremental improvements. I think long term this will serve you better to establish your company as a long term player. I know a lot of people on this forum like to bash Leupold but this describes why many of us have stuck with them. Well that and the fact that we grew up looking at Jack Slacks custom rifles festooned across the pages of the gun rags of course all of them wearing Leupolds. One of the great marketing campaigns of all time imho. Good luck and I wish Vortex well. Just put a gloss finish on a few of the basic models would you.
 
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Does "discontinued" have any impact on customer service?  I was looking for a 3X9, but the viper 4X12 looks like a really good value.
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Originally posted by Flats Flats wrote:

Does "discontinued" have any impact on customer service?  I was looking for a 3X9, but the viper 4X12 looks like a really good value.
yep,  it its discounted they will only offer excellent customer service. if its not its awesome customer service.......All vortex products carry a lifetime warranty so if something came up and happened they would repair or replace it to YOUR liking.  making sure you are happy!
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How would the 2-7 do for a .308 out to 200-300 yards?
I know it would be fine for Minute of Man out to 500 yards.
But how about for putting a round into Bambi's vitals for clean kill at 200-300?

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No problem.  The 2-7 has more than enough.  In fact, precise shots at 600 yards are quite doable at 7X with a competent shooter.
 
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Originally posted by ChileRelleno ChileRelleno wrote:

How would the 2-7 do for a .308 out to 200-300 yards?
I know it would be fine for Minute of Man out to 500 yards.
But how about for putting a round into Bambi's vitals for clean kill at 200-300?



I may be able to let you know tomorrow.  I have the 2-7X32 on a Sako .308 and will be using it tomorrow on a kill permit to help a vineyard with a deer problem.  Assuming I do my part, I am pretty sure the 2-7 will be fine for 200-300yds.
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Originally posted by ChileRelleno ChileRelleno wrote:

How would the 2-7 do for a .308 out to 200-300 yards?
I know it would be fine for Minute of Man out to 500 yards.
But how about for putting a round into Bambi's vitals for clean kill at 200-300?
 
You should have no problem with that range what so ever, as far as the scope goes.  You could do what I did, and order the BDC reticle.  Not only is it thicker than the regular plex, which should help somewhat with lower light shots, but you also have the BDC feature as well, which should make it easier for longer shots.
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Are the 2-7 BDCs In-Stock? 
I don't see anything about a back order on these in particular.
But I saw others talk about other 2-7 reticles being back ordered.
Does SWFA show back orders?
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