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Haven't seen this posted before.  Remington fans check it out!

 
Here's a surprise, a 257 Wby in a Remington:
 
 
And an even bigger surprise is their 700 CDL SF Limited Edition is in 260 Rem!
 


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i would love to have both
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Why the 10 twist?  I thought all 6.5's did best with 8 twist, especially with the heavier bullets.
 


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im pretty sure my 6.5 rem mag and my . 264 winmag are 1:9's you shouldnt need to shoot anything heavier than a 140gr bullet out of a 6.5mm and a 1:9 will stabilize a 140
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That's my point.  They're doing a 10 twist, not a 9.
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yeah i guess if you want to shoot 140's out of a .260 thats not going to work so well, but so far my .264win mag is the only 6.5 i have that shoots 140s very well any way, my 6.5rem mag likes 120s and 130s a 140 is a hella long bullet not much room for powder so i can see why they did that.
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I actually lean towards a 1 in 8 twist for the 260 myself. I just ordered a barrel and shilen and LW both recommended it for 120-140's.

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Focus.  That's exactly what I've been told, 8 twist for 140's.  What's even more interesting is it looks like Remington is offering a new factory ammo offering in 260 and it's a 140 grain.  That gives them four offerings for the 260; one 120 grain and three 140 grain.  Curious.
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the twist chart i have shows the 1:8 for 120gr bullets and you dont get the 140s without a 1:9
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The faster the twist ie 1 in 8 the better it stablizes the heavier bullet weights. The way shilen explained it was the 1 in 8 or 1 in 9 would both stablize the 140's but if you were ever going to want to shoot the lightweight bullets the 1 in 9 was more of a compromise. I said never under 125 and they said the 1 in 8 will be best.

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thats correct the 1:9's are setup for up to 140gr and the 1:8 is good for 140-160 i cant see any need for shooting a 160gr out of the .260 any way, i wouldnt shoot anything heavier than a 130 gr out of the .260 myself.
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i would still love to have that .260 cdl sf sweet rifle, i love my .264 in the cdl sf wouldnt mind having a few more.
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Originally posted by Focus Focus wrote:

The faster the twist ie 1 in 8 the better it stablizes the heavier bullet weights. The way shilen explained it was the 1 in 8 or 1 in 9 would both stablize the 140's but if you were ever going to want to shoot the lightweight bullets the 1 in 9 was more of a compromise. I said never under 125 and they said the 1 in 8 will be best.

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Didn't you mean to say if you were ever going to want to shoot the HEAVYWEIGHT bullets the 1 in 9 was more of a compromise?  I understood the heavier the bullet the faster the twist for 6.5's.
 
Anyway, it looks like you guys are agreeing the 10 twist is too slow and has to be a mistake in the 2008 Remington Literature - and they haven't found the mistake yet and/or haven't told customer service.  If it's NOT a mistake I wouldn't buy the rifle unless Remington can explain why they're using a 10.  I want to buy one if it turns out the twist is an 8 or (maybe) a 9.  My 700 Mtn 260 is a 9.
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it may be a typeo they have that .257 wby for the 50th anniv. and they show it holds 5 rounds in the magazine. doubt it
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No the 1 in 9 is a slower twist so it is better if you want to shoot the less than 140 weight bullets. The 1 in 8 is the best according to both LW and shilen for a gun that shoots 140 pretty much as a steady diet. I want the extreme penetration and the longer 140's will deliver that while I can still shoot 130's with no problem. The 160 round nose doesn't interest me at all. I would avoid a 1 in 10 twist in a 260 unless you plan on shooting the smaller light weight bullets.

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some of those 6.5s would make killer varmint rifles too, long range style shooting i called my dad and asked him if he had any 6.5mm bullets in the dungeon and he said he would go look and then in about 3-4 days i get a half full box of 85 gr hollow points in 6.5mm, older than the hills sierras the ones in the paper box with the metal deals in the corners, i havent loaded any up

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I agree, I believe the 260 with 100gr bullets is one of the best long range wind bucking short action chamberings there is. A sweet long range chuck or coyote round....heres where that 1 in 10 twist would truly shine...

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yup that .260 will run with my 6.5 rem mag even with a heavy bullet in it, now my .264 of course is another story

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Sorry Focus.  I misunderstood.  We are saying the same thing.  The faster twist is the 8 and the 9 and 10 are progressively slower.  The 140's do best with the (fast) 8 twist.
 
I too hope this 700 SF Limited Edition 260 will have an 8 or at least a 9 because I want to use the 140 grain rounds.  Again, my 700 Mtn 260 has a 9 twist so I'm thinking this must be a typo (the 10 twist).  I'm going to check back with Remington in a couple of weeks and hope they will have caught the 'mistake' in the catalog.
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Hey timber, maybe they are meaning the 1 in 9 which is the standard. Or maybe they are encouraging the use of lighter bullets? Who knows, I guess a 140 will stablize with the 1 in 10, one would have to try I guess. It would be a great little gun to have......

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Hey Focus.  Look I know I'm beating this to death but everyone I've talked to (on the phone - Shilen, Lilja) and everything I've read has said a twist rate of 8 or FASTER is what's needed for the 140's.  I'm no expert but the weight of research points to that finding.  That leads me to believe the probability is high that the 2008 Remington Catalog is wrong.  Plus, as others have pointed out, there are other mistakes/typos in this and previous years catalogs.  I will call Remington in a couple of weeks and report back to this forum.  If it's correct (the 10 twist) I'll try to get an explanation.  I'm sure we're not the only ones questioning this.  Thanks for the postings.
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ok...... this is kind of a bummer, the different twist rates needed for pretty small difs in bullet weight.   Isn't that one of the biggest knocks on the .270?  If a .260 is going to be sitting next to me I want to be able to shoot both Whitetails and coyotes.  I have not noticed an issue with my .06 when I go from the 150s I use for deer to the 125s i use for dogs.
 
Is this something only bench shooters will notice or is it a concern for hunters too?
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you can use the 120's on both out of the .260 not a big deal or you could load it with a light weight bullet to

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