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Update on my 6.5x47L
I wasn't able to sight in my scope yet as I have a 30mm pic rail/base.
The Burris Eliminator III is not designed with a lot of internal MOA adjustment since the purpose of the scope is to use the technology for distance.
I put in their shim/lift kit which came in on Friday and bore sighted it easily.
Today I went the range and zeroed it at 100 yards as per the instructions.
I had already programmed it for my drop and BC.
It was easy to be exact on my 100 yard zero with the 1/8 MOA clicks on the turrets which you can zero like one would a target turret.
A friend from church who was with me helped me set up a steel target at 750 yards.
Actually we set it up at 749 but it was close enough for what I wanted.
Shooting of off a Harris bi-pod and my small Holland field bag.
Lasered the target and it came up as 749 yards which is the same distance my Leica 1600 LRF gave me.
Wind was coming from the right and I guesstimated the speed as I checked the correction for a 10 mph FV (upper right part of the scope) and held slightly right and sent it.
First shot at distance (749 yards) with Eliminator was perfect for drop, but slightly under doped the wind and hit at three O'Clock.
Best word I can come up with is giddy.
My friend from church who was watching through my spotting scope could hardly believe his eyes.
We went and took some pics then took a break as we were shooting to other rifles as well: 7mm STW & a 30-378 Weatherby.
About an hour later, Tracy shot from 400-1000 yards with first shot connections each time with my 6.5-47L.
Bright sunshine and mirage was now in play.
He said it was so easy it made him feel like he was cheating.  
Since once you laser the target, everything you need to make the shot is in the optic, but you still have to determine what the wind is doing, but the correction value is right there for you.
When they say "Range it & Eliminate it!" they weren't kidding.
Tracy said when he first heard about it, he though it may be more of a gimmick and not practical for field use.  
He doesn't feel that way anymore.  I think the scope on his Tikka 300 WSM may be for sale in the future.
Pics of the target:



For those who don't shoot distance much I had Tracy take two pics looking back to the bench, one with no zoom and then the second one with as much zoom this little digital camera has.  On the pic that is zoomed the shooting bench is just above the head of the target.


I let him shoot the rest of my ammo that I had on hand.  He was having a blast, literally.
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Are you planning on using this for long distance target shooting or do you plan to use it in hunting situations?< id="_clearly_component__" ="text/">#next_pages_container { width: 5px; hight: 5px; position: absolute; top: -100px; left: -100px; z-index: 2147483647 !important; }

How does the optic indicate what adjustments to make for wind?
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No doubt I will enjoy shooting steel with this, but hunting would be the primary.
Shooting steel is the practice, to prepare for the hunting.
So in reality, more shots on steel than in the field at game.
Going to use it for pd shooting next week.
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Originally posted by hopeisnotastrategy hopeisnotastrategy wrote:

Are you planning on using this for long distance target shooting or do you plan to use it in hunting situations?< id="_clearly_component__" ="text/">#next_pages_container { width: 5px; hight: 5px; position: absolute; top: -100px; left: -100px; z-index: 2147483647 !important; }

How does the optic indicate what adjustments to make for wind?


the add's i've seen for the scope show the reticle... there's a grid of small dots on the lower half of the scope image and a number on the upper half that indicates holdover for a given wind strength... ie.  10mph wind= 1.7 dots holdover.  so the appropriate dot for range is illuminated in the center, and there are dots to the left and right of that one to use for windage holdover
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Originally posted by Ernie Bishop Ernie Bishop wrote:

 He said it was so easy it made him feel like he was cheating.  
 It's funny your friend said that, because whenever I've thought about getting this scope, that's what came to my mind... that I'd be cheating.

As I ask this question I want to make sure my tone is clear.  This is not meant to in any way be accusatory.

I honestly am just curious if you had those feelings and if so, how you worked through them.  You obviously purchased the scope so at this point it's not an issue for you.

I hope you understand the spirit of my question.

Thanks in advance.
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Understand it well and it is a good question.
The words didn't come to my mind when I used it.
I just think it is a neat package that offers an all-in-one set-up for a lot of people who want to shoot distance.  It will allow shooters to keep their cheek weld and their eye on the target, and in the end make a quicker shot.  That can be important for hunting.
I am always looking for practical tools to help me be more efficient and accurate in the field.
I am not much of a rifleman, but I am enjoying this combination.  I typically shoot specialty pistols for LR Comps, LR field shooting and hunting, and yes at times at distance.

When my bud said that, it was not a moral or ethical issue for him.
He was so impressed.  It was his way of saying, "I like it and I want one!"
My son (18 and in college) said something similar himself when he first saw it and then asked if I would mount it on his MOA Maximum handgun.  I told him not to hold his breathBandito
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Been doing some pd shooting with the 6.5 and the Elim 3.
Knocked out dogs from 382-573 yards. On day one I was shooting in bright sunshine with mirage on relatively flat terrain. 
Difficult for any LRF. 
Day two we had a lot of wind.  From around 14-23 mph and gusting. 
Set-up so I was shooting from a somewhat elevated location and ranged with no problems whatsoever, even with sun and mirage. 
Flat ground doesn't have anything to reflect off of when lazering on level ground, but a dog mounds works.
 Getting a little elevated worked even better.
If there had been an animal on level ground-No problems.  Antelope were easy to range.
If the winds hadn't been so gusty there would be more food for the birds of prey. :D

I will begin lope and deer hunting the 2nd week of October.  I am going to take one or the other with this rig, then use my single-shot specialty handguns for the rest.
I am thinking I may take the Elim 3 off the rifle and put it on one of my SP's 8)
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Now that would be cool to see it on one of your handgun rigs
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It will happen and it may be a center-grip XP, chambered in 284 Win (light-weight barrel).
I am enjoying this optic and its capabilities.
I want to go shoot just so I can use it.
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I have continued to use the E-3 and it continues to deliver.
This year I put o0n another church steel shoot and I let a college girl use the 6.5 with the E-3, and she placed 3rd.  She couldn't believe how easy it was to use.
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Originally posted by hopeisnotastrategy hopeisnotastrategy wrote:

Originally posted by Ernie Bishop Ernie Bishop wrote:

 He said it was so easy it made him feel like he was cheating.  
 It's funny your friend said that, because whenever I've thought about getting this scope, that's what came to my mind... that I'd be cheating.

As I ask this question I want to make sure my tone is clear.  This is not meant to in any way be accusatory.

I honestly am just curious if you had those feelings and if so, how you worked through them.  You obviously purchased the scope so at this point it's not an issue for you.

I hope you understand the spirit of my question.

Thanks in advance.
 
The advance of technology is not "cheating".  When have we ever failed to use the advantages of technology against enemies or game?  Was it cheating when we went from throwing rocks to throwing spears?  from spears to bows? from bows to firearms?  Why would it be cheating to use the best available technology to not only improve the chances of hitting game at an increased range, but to improve the possibilities of delivering a killing shot more effectively?  If it is cheating, we should go back to rocks...
I hope you understand the spirit of my comments... not intended to be inflammatory in any way, just stating that anything that gives us as hunters a new capability to take game with less suffering on the part of the animal, the more human and humane we are... the better we are. 
It's not cheating...
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AS I mentioned earlier, at our annual Church Steel Shoot I had a college girl use my 6.5x47L with the E-3 and she took 3rd place out of 17 shooters with it, and then a couple of days later before we picked up the steel, and the guys who were helping me pick up steel, played around at 775 yards. A high school student (Colter) was using the 6.5 with the E-3.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPd3bBNGbTw
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Originally posted by Kickboxer Kickboxer wrote:


The advance of technology is not "cheating". 


Agreed! And you still have to know how to use it. If you don't know how all the technology in the world will not help you.


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You still have to be able to read the wind.
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I was able to go out and shoot with a couple from church yesterday.
He shoots a factory Remmy 300 RUM, and is still relatively new to LR.
His wife hadn't shot a centerfire rifle, but was interested in LR shooting.
For about a half hour I did a little coaching at the house working on basics.
Her husband had never used a Burris E-3 scope before, so was on the carpet checking it out after I got the basics finished.
Then it was off to Mac's Gunworks to play on some steel.
Her two biggest challenges was seeing through the scope with the full field of view and trigger pull.
The third issue was learning to use the rear bag properly, but that was minimal.
10" A-500 steel.
Every shot was hit until she went to 600 yards.
That is where the form issues begin to show themselves clearly.
Remember this was her first time ever use a centerfire rifle and a scope.
She started with 10 power and before the afternoon was over she was running everything at 14 power with no problems.
At 450 & 500 yards once she got her trigger pull down she began clustering shots that were touching on a fairly regular basis. There were a few hiccups with a few shots high but overall she was shooting awesome.

I used the 4" to 5" steel targets and ran from 200 yards to 600 (100 yard increments) yards then shot 800 & 1000 yards on 10" & 12" steel.
When she was ready for break, her husband was able to shoot it and went out to thousand yards with success.
I think she is hooked!
After taking a break from shooting she finished up at 450 yards and 500 yards.
No misses.
I am very proud of her!!!
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Most excellent!!! Congrats to everybody. It's always very gratifying to get somebody new into the game.  Excellent
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