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I like to shoot targets, plates and groundhogs up to 500 yards.  The rounds I use currently  use include 204, 223, 308, 6mmBR and soon 6.5x47 Lapua and 243.

I prefer a mil-dot based reticle, mostly for the occasional holdover and windage compensation.  I do not mind turning knobs for elevation.   I do not like BDC reticles.

To date, I have mostly used (don't laugh) Simmons 44 Mag scopes in 6.5-20x44 mil-dot config.  I also have a Bushnell Elite 4200 6-24x40 scope that I like.

I'm looking for another scope and have a budget of about $1k.   I'd like my next scope to have:
  • Sharp optics with at least 20x.  Maybe even be able to resolve 308 bullet holes out to 500 yards in good conditions?
  • Crisp, perfectly repeatable clicks.  I hate mushy knobs.
  • I'm a lefty shooter so I really don't care about AO vs. side focus.
  • 1/4 MOA adjustment preferred.
  • Decent eye relief
So far, I am considering the following scopes:
  • Zeiss Conquest 6.5-20x50
  • Bushnell Elite 4200 6-24x50
  • Bushnell Elite 6500 4.5-30x50
  • Leupold Mk4 6.5-20x50 with TMR
  • Leupold Mk4 8.5-25x50 with TMR
  • Even considering a refurb Nikon 6.5-20x44 Monarch UCC (#6605)
Obviously, there is quite a range of price here.  I am guessing that based on my #1 criteria -- optical clarity -- that the Zeiss would be #1 on this list.  How much better is it compared to the Elites, Leupolds and Nikons?

How do the controls compare?

Which would YOU pick and why?

Thanks!
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Conquest is indeed very good, but Bushnell Elite 4200 scopes are lapping at the Conquest'd heels.  Elite 6500 scopes seemed as good as the 4200, if not better, but I have not done a detailed test on them.

I'd be inclined to go with either Elite 4200 or Elite 6500 depending on how much money you are willing to spend.  I think they offer a lot for the money.

ILya
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mk 4 6.5x20 with tmr, you won't be able to see 308 holes with any of the scope you mention.

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at 500 yds.
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 Did I read that right $1,000.00 for a paper puncher ? I'd have to be able to eat the targets or be winning some  bucks to put that into a paper puncher .... $1K = $1,000.00 or am I wrong ?
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yea good thing it wasn't for steel it would be one of those $1500 ones
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Originally posted by Dale Clifford Dale Clifford wrote:

yea good thing it wasn't for steel it would be one of those $1500 ones


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