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Im thinking of buying a 17 hmr, Im curious what you guys suggest? I would like it stainless and maybe a laminated or synthetic stock, perhaps a thumb hole would be nice or not that important really. Mostly very accurate....I appreciate any ideas, Thanks in Advance!Smile
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I honestly have never seen a 17 hmr.  What is it used for if you don't mind me asking?  I have heard of it but didn't pay it any attention.
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Here is a nice one that I just saw when I googled searche 17hmr stainless thumbhole LOL

http://www.gandermountain.com/modperl/product/details.cgi?i=416262&pdesc=Savage_5_1_17HMR_w/AccuTrigger/Heavy_Stainless_Barrel/Brown_Laminated_Stock&aID=510B1&merchID=4006


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Here is an article by Chuck Hawks
 
Yes that Savage might be ok


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Hey Julio, this one looks pretty interesting.  http://www.sako.fi/sakoquad.php.  You could just get the .17 HMR barrel for now and add others if you ever wanted to.

Probably crazy hard to get though, like a lot of Sako specialty stuff.
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Didn't I just here something about 17 hmr's being recalled in automatic rifles?
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Jason, Thats a pretty nice rifle. Im guesssing the price is right up there too. Ive got the Busmaster AR, now I just want a smaller simple Varmint Rifle for plinking and shootin red diggers, etc.  I thought maybe some of you guys owned the 17 already?

 
Im not sure Jeff, I really have not heard much about the 17hmr, maybe I should just stick with my 223 ARSmile its semi auto


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[QUOTE=SVT_Tactical]

Here is a nice one that I just saw when I googled searche 17hmr stainless thumbhole LOL

http://www.gandermountain.com/modperl/product/details.cgi?i=416262&pdesc=Savage_5_1_17HMR_w/AccuTrigger/Heavy_Stainless_Barrel/Brown_Laminated_Stock&aID=510B1&merchID=4006
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Looks like that may fill the bill.
They even make those for us "special" shooters, in LH.  
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I don't have one but have heard several people locally say the wind blew the bullets badly. They all said over a 100yrds with any wind you couldn't hit squat ! I personally don't know .............but I know one guy that went with a .204 and another that sold 3 .17hmrs and went with a .22 wmr .
 
I shot a Volquartsen .17hmr a couple of weekends ago and it was pretty accurate and was drifting about 2" right at 100yrds with a light left to right wind. My Ruger 77/22mag is more accurate but you know how that goes(.17 wasn't my gun.....only had one kind of bullet) !!!


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Sounds I may as well stick with the 223, and maybe I will get a scope for my old 22LR Remington. I bought it in 1970 forr 55.00Smile brand new, its a Semi-Auto too. It used to be super accuarate until the walnut stock got wet..........
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You could always go for a .204, they sound like a lot of fun.
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Yeah Jason, seems like they travel arond 4,000 fps...I wonder what range they are good up to...Whatever it is they get there in a hurry. I really do not know anything about the smaller calibers just thinking about it...
 
I just typed in my old Remington on google, check it out a 55.00 rifle now sells for 250.00


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I have read they are pretty capable out to 500 yards.
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204? Thats pretty impressive I think anyway, might be something to pursue..There are so many things I wanna do and buy, not enough money and not enough time JasonSmile
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Originally posted by supertool73 supertool73 wrote:

You could always go for a .204, they sound like a lot of fun.


That they are.
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What brand of 204 do you have John? sounds like you like it.
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I have a DPMS.  I do like it.  Friend Brandon has a Rem 700 in .204.  Have not used mine a lot for pdogs but it is a riot.  Have pdog'n with Brandon and his rifle and the .204 shoots flat, it is fast and it don't heat up near as fast as my .22-250.  Recoil is almost nonexistant with either gun.  Highly recomend the .204.  Another friend has .204 in a Savage.  Scary accurate.
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I love my 17 HMRs.  Both will consistently shoot under 1/3" at 100 Yds. It is not so much a problem with the wind.
Per the Federal charts
17 HMR Vmax 10 MPH drift is 3.3" at 100 Yds and 15.5" drift at 200 Yd with only  8.7" drop.
30 gr Win-mag  wind  drift is 6.0" at 100 Yds and 27.4" drift at 200 Yd. with      16.5" drop.
The ammo for the .17 HMR is a lot more quiet and a lot less expensive to shoot than the .204.


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204 Savage, Remington, DPMS,, that sounds interesting, I may take a look at em. Im thinkin the 17hmr is Out. I like the sounds of the 204 much better,sounds like alot of fun, my wife could shoot it too,!!
 
 
Well I just don't know, but the wind blows like hell here alot of the time, I mean blows as its pretty open country. So Im not sure which would be better 17hmr or 204, probably the 204 is alot heavier... Im just guessing as I do not know anything about these calibers.


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I would probably opt to go with a bolt gun like a Savage 10FP in .223 since you already load that cartridge.  Interchangability of ammo is a good thing.  The nice thing about the rimfire guns 17 hmr and 22 mag ans 22LR is  you dont have to fool with the brass and reload them they dont kick and the ammo is way cheaper than centerfire.  The down side is they dont have much power.  22mag being the most useful of the group and a fine cartridge for a lot of things.  Preston shot a coyote with a 22 mag and all it took was one shot.   I have a 22 LR Savage stainless thumbhole that I like but its a better 50 yd gun than further.  The 17 is supposed to be more accurate due to better bullet quality but the 22mag is a better hunting cartridge for small game. For something like shooting Crows the 17 is ideal.  The 204 would probably be fun and probably uses small rifle primers not sure but that might make it a good choice because large rifle primers  are hard to find.
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Hi WesSmile
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Yeah Im just toying with the idea, I would like something inexpensive to shoot. Ive never really figured out what it cost for 223 rounds to load....Ive still got the New 500 Lapua Brass and 77gr match rounds to load for the 223, although they are certainly not the least expensive way to go Im sure...Another 223 would not hurt my feelings for sure.  Im seriously thinking about fixing up my ol Remington 22, it will shoot anything. Im not even sure if they make any 22 rounds smaller than LR anymore, longs?, shorts? The ol rifle still looks great but the stock is tweeked somewhere, enough to throw it off. Damn now I wish I had bought a PU load of em for 55.00 eachBandito
 
Here I found a 10 FP, Im going to look for one in stainless if they make it, doubt they do since its call Law Inforcement.


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I still wouldn't blow the HMR off completely. I love mine, and seem to make hits out to several hundred yards in the SD wind. It will never be a .204, but cheap enough to shoot, and recoil really is non-existant. I shoot a heavy barreled Savage with accutrigger, and synthetic stock. Any need for anything bigger though, and I go to the 22-250. Why don't I have a .204? They sound fun.
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Talking centerfire here.  If it is just a plinking gun then I would probably go with the .223 as well.  If you want the best varmint round go with the .204.  With varmints it is all about getting the bullet there ASAP.  With the .204 you will have 1000+ FPS over the .223 with certain loads.  And that will help a ton.

I would love one, but like Wes stated cannot justify the cost of all the new reloading stuff to gear up for one.   
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Oh and by the way the stock that comes on that 10fp is horrible.  I used to have one in .308 and with the slightest amount of pressure ti will push on the barrel and change the POI.  Very frustrating.  
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Well that counts the 10 fp out if the stock is bad.....Hmmmm, I wish I could have one of each of everything, ah well hell.... Im in no hurry and Im not buying anything today anyway. I picked up a rifle with a thumb hole stock this year for the first time and I was really impressed with the way it felt both carrying it and throwing it up....It seems to me that someone maybe Budperm had a nice stainless/laminated stock 223 or 22-250 .. I cannot remember but I do recall it looked pretty cool, varmint rifle , maybe a Savage...I'll have to ask him....I need to give this a break for today ,,,,before I go buy something I really don't need..Bandito This is what happens when you want a SS Scope and no rifle to put it on...
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